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Old 01-03-2013, 09:33 PM
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Hey guys,

I,m looking to maximise pts per $ spent in my league in sig. So, according to you, should I drop Heatley for Vrbata, who's sitting on the ww?

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$70.2 cap. Where is your current cap situation? You'd save about $4 mil with the difference of Heatley vs Vrbata. Can you swing a trade instead? Get back a draft pick or something,etc * use Heatley's name" then maybe pick up Vrbata...just one idea.
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no cap space for now ( 0.022 M cap space in fact)....I have two non-tradable assets right now ( Heater and Nash )....not that I didn't try.....
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It looks like Radim Vrbata's cap hit is $3 million for the next season, while Dany Heatley's is $7.5 million. I'd expect Vrbata's offensive production to decline a bit moving forward. He tallied the highest shooting percentage (.151) since his rookie season of 2001-02. I'd expect something along the lines of 45-50 points. Meanwhile, Heatley's a declining offensive player. While I think he'll benefit from playing on a Minnesota PP unit that now has Zach Parise, his star has dimmed a bit and he's no longer a high-end offensive force at even strength. I could see 55 points from him over a full season, certainly no more than 60. Vrbata is the better bargain here.
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no cap space for now ( 0.022 M cap space in fact)....I have two non-tradable assets right now ( Heater and Nash )....not that I didn't try.....

Well then you need to go with Vrbata here. The 2 players will be close enough in points to warrant saving the cap space and getting similiar production in return.
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Thanks guys,

The following players are still available on the ww and are in the 3-4 M per year range:

Peverley
Hudler
J.Jokinen
D. Brassard
M. Grabner
A. Vermette
M. Hanzal
A. Steen

Are they better options?
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F: T. Seguin, J. Eberle, J. Neal, J. Silfverberg, A. Semin, M. Grandlund, A. Ovechkin, E. Malkin, D. Roy, C. Eakin, D. Krejci, T.Vanek.

D: S. Voynov, T. Barrie.

G: C. Schneider, J. Quick.
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I'd drop Heatley for Vrbata, if you need the cap to make another move, which it looks like you probably do.

From the list provided I wouldn't take any of them over Vrbata, that said I'm not so sure how Vrbata is going to do without Whitney, and wouldn't hang on to him for too long if he doesn't show much of last seasons form.
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In a cap league Im also all over Vrbata. Sure maybe Heatley performs a bit better in the years to come with the new Wild lineup but it's not worth what you'll be paying for. I expect him to sit on the wire for the majority of the season.
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you need to try to get something/anything for heatly.
get a late pick/risky prospect or something if you can. to just drop heatly is crazy.
vrbata is a bargian in a cap league though.
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I would take Vrbata over Heatley.
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