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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=411653

Is anyone up to speed on what this means? I don't know.....
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While decertification is the players walking away from the Union, a disclaimer of interest is the Union walking away from the players.
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The end game is basically the same thing but there are fewer hurdles. It's more complicated than this but in simple terms it's similar to decertification.
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Looks like the players want the deal the owners are offering.

This basically seems to show they don't agree with Fehr and what hes trying to prove. And basically are saving face for both them and the Fehr.

They like the Owners last offer and will settle on the 5year contracts and 10 year CBA etc. (Ofcourse it may be slightly different.

I'd Expect a deal done very soon. Unless there is more to it then were being lead to believe.
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Looks like the players want the deal the owners are offering.
I think it's actually the opposite of this - disbanding the union (either through decertification or through a disclaimer of interest) has the legal effect of making all the players independent contractors and eliminates the legal construct to which a CBA is applied. Antitrust lawsuits against the league by many individual players would follow.

No NHLPA = no CBA.

Disbanding the union, and the legal fight it would prompt, means the season is completely toast.
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i really see this as just another bs ploy that has nothing to do with actually getting a deal done and everything to do with smoke and mirrors...

cause we all know the union is never going to disband in reality, even if they wanted to...
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i really see this as just another bs ploy that has nothing to do with actually getting a deal done and everything to do with smoke and mirrors...
Thats what I thought at first as well....a leverage play.

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Disbanding the union, and the legal fight it would prompt, means the season is completely toast.
Does it not also mean that if it goes through all the players are free agents???
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Fehr himself said last week that they were close to a deal and yet instead of taking NHL's proposal for the membership to vote, they vote on disbanding the union.

Yeah, this is what it's always been - a union who doesn't want to make a deal. Or I should say union leadership who doesn't want to make a deal.
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Does it not also mean that if it goes through all the players are free agents???
No one knows. There's no precedent on that. NBA argued last year that all contracts would be null and void but in the end it would be up to courts to decide. We'll never get to that point.
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Fehr himself said last week that they were close to a deal and yet instead of taking NHL's proposal for the membership to vote, they vote on disbanding the union.

Yeah, this is what it's always been - a union who doesn't want to make a deal.
The NHL isn't innocent in this.

They're close, but NHL won't budge. Seriously, look at everything that has happened in all of these negotiations - what has the NHL actually given?

The NHLPA has continually moved closer to the NHL's position. They're close, but now the NHLPA is saying they aren't giving anymore. The disclaimer is the nuclear option, and this is one of the last bids to get the NHL to give something themselves.
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