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Old 12-11-2012, 03:20 PM
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Hello fellow dobberites,

I've got a draft coming up this week, and am looking for some help ranking some prospects.

I currently have pick #5, 15 and 16 in the first two rounds.

In our pool, young and cheap dmen and dmen prospects tend to be the most coveted players, due to our 1.5 pts per dman point and we use the cap hit.

I've got a list of ~30 available players, and would love some help putting them in some sort of of a Top 20. Thanks in advance.

Also, if i'm missing anyone from the 2012 draft that should be included, please feel free to add them.

Atkinson
Barberio
Berglund
Bjugstad
Brodie
Brodin
Ceci
Cervenka
Conacher
Dumba
Etem
Forsberg
Galchenyuk
Grigorenko
Jarnkrok
Kreider
Larsen
Moore
Morrow
Murray
Palmeiri
Pulkkinen
Rattie
Reilly
Saad
Schultz
Shore
Silfverberg
Stone
Teravainen
Vatanen
Yakupov
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Active (12 F, 6 D, 2G)
F: Crosby(IR), Parise, E. Kane, Benn, JVR, Perron, Brassard, Roy, Ennis, Palmieri, Read, Conacher, Backlund
D: J. Johnson, Goligoski, Carlson, Burns, Shattenkirk(on loan), Brodin, Faulk
G: Quick, Bobrovsky

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F: Strome, Scheifele, Schwarz, Forsberg, Grigorenko, Teravainen, Shore
D: Merrill, Gormley, Lindholm
G: Allen, Markstrom
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:51 PM
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this is just cuting and pasting your list a bit with not a ton of thought to it but its a start. im sure youll get a bunch of different lists anyways to compare.

Yakupov
Grigorenko
Galchenyuk
Schultz
Reilly
Kreider
Forsberg
Murray
Dumba
Berglund
Bjugstad
Silfverberg
Brodin
Rattie
Etem
Morrow
Moore
Palmeiri
Stone
Teravainen
Ceci
Brodie
Vatanen
Atkinson
Barberio
Larsen
Conacher
Pulkkinen
Cervenka
Jarnkrok
Saad
Shore
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this is just cuting and pasting your list a bit with not a ton of thought to it but its a start. im sure youll get a bunch of different lists anyways to compare.
Thanks! This is exactly what i'm looking for, and hopefully i'll be able to get a couple to help compare

i listed it alphabetically to start, so i wouldn't give away my own rankings, incase i get trolled by the guys in my league
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F: Crosby(IR), Parise, E. Kane, Benn, JVR, Perron, Brassard, Roy, Ennis, Palmieri, Read, Conacher, Backlund
D: J. Johnson, Goligoski, Carlson, Burns, Shattenkirk(on loan), Brodin, Faulk
G: Quick, Bobrovsky

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F: Strome, Scheifele, Schwarz, Forsberg, Grigorenko, Teravainen, Shore
D: Merrill, Gormley, Lindholm
G: Allen, Markstrom
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Yakupov
Schultz
Galchenyuk
Bjugstad
Berglund
Grigorenko
Forsberg
Rielly
Silfverberg
Kreider
Dumba
Vatanen
Murray
Morrow
Barberio
Brodin
Rattie
Conacher
Saad
K Palmieri
Atkinson
Teravainen
Etem
Stone
Cervenka
Ceci
Larsen
Brodie
Jarnkrok
Pulkkinen
Shore
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So i had actually messed up and had the #6, 16 and 17th over all picks.

I was shocked to have Grigorenko fall to #6, so i had to make a decision between Grigs and Bjugstad, and ended up taking Grigs. I tried to trade up in the 2nd round, but the guy i was trying to trade with wanted Bjugstad.

The draft ended up being a bit of a crap shoot, some guys were prepared, some weren't, others had needs they wanted to fill that i didn't account for. I think i reached for Hertl and Lindholm, but i do think they have enough upside and opportunity to justify the picks.

My picks:

6. Grigorenko
16. Forsberg
17. Teravainen
21. Hertl
29. Lindholm
36. Conacher
45. Stone
46. Vatanen
47. Nelson
50. Donovan
56. Brodin
60. Shore
66. Palmieri
86. Pirri
96. Faksa
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Active (12 F, 6 D, 2G)
F: Crosby(IR), Parise, E. Kane, Benn, JVR, Perron, Brassard, Roy, Ennis, Palmieri, Read, Conacher, Backlund
D: J. Johnson, Goligoski, Carlson, Burns, Shattenkirk(on loan), Brodin, Faulk
G: Quick, Bobrovsky

Reserve
F: Strome, Scheifele, Schwarz, Forsberg, Grigorenko, Teravainen, Shore
D: Merrill, Gormley, Lindholm
G: Allen, Markstrom

Last edited by j_diddy; 12-14-2012 at 12:31 PM. Reason: updated with draft pick numbers
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Hello fellow dobberites,

I've got a draft coming up this week, and am looking for some help ranking some prospects.

I currently have pick #5, 15 and 16 in the first two rounds.

In our pool, young and cheap dmen and dmen prospects tend to be the most coveted players, due to our 1.5 pts per dman point and we use the cap hit.

I've got a list of ~30 available players, and would love some help putting them in some sort of of a Top 20. Thanks in advance.

Also, if i'm missing anyone from the 2012 draft that should be included, please feel free to add them.

Atkinson
Barberio
Berglund
Bjugstad
Brodie
Brodin
Ceci
Cervenka
Conacher
Dumba
Etem
Forsberg
Galchenyuk
Grigorenko
Jarnkrok
Kreider
Larsen
Moore
Morrow
Murray
Palmeiri
Pulkkinen
Rattie
Reilly
Saad
Schultz
Shore
Silfverberg
Stone
Teravainen
Vatanen
Yakupov
My top five:

Yakupov
Schultz
Galchenyuk
Bjugstad
Rielly
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Grigorenko
Forsberg
Teravainen
Hertl
Lindholm
Conacher
Stone
Vatanen
Nelson
Donovan
Brodin
Shore
Palmieri
Pirri
Faksa
Great job, you did well getting Grigs at 6, Forsberg at 16 and Teravainen at 17. Could you let us know what number the other picks were? Looks like a real solid draft for you.
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Great job, you did well getting Grigs at 6, Forsberg at 16 and Teravainen at 17. Could you let us know what number the other picks were? Looks like a real solid draft for you.
Thanks Vandalay, i've gone back and updated my picks with their numbers.

The draft this year was done with two expansion teams (league is now at 10 teams, finally), a number of teams looking to fill roster spots and was planned with one weeks notice (just incase the unthinkable happens, and the NHL and PA sign a CBA during the holidays, we wanted to make sure we could get a draft done, which during the holiday week would have been impossible).

my plan going in, as most of my roster is mostly full, was to try and get a blue-chip prospect or two, and then a mix of high-ceiling new prospects (forsberg, teravainen and hertl) and some AHL experienced and cheap prospects that might contribute right away (Conacher, Palmieri and Donovan). The rest were good cap hits/value with opportunities to make their NHL teams with a good camp.

the reason Grigs fell to 6th was because Cam Ward and Ryan Murray were picked in the top 5, both of those i didn't see coming, and as such had to make a decision between grigs and bjugstad at #6.
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F: Crosby(IR), Parise, E. Kane, Benn, JVR, Perron, Brassard, Roy, Ennis, Palmieri, Read, Conacher, Backlund
D: J. Johnson, Goligoski, Carlson, Burns, Shattenkirk(on loan), Brodin, Faulk
G: Quick, Bobrovsky

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F: Strome, Scheifele, Schwarz, Forsberg, Grigorenko, Teravainen, Shore
D: Merrill, Gormley, Lindholm
G: Allen, Markstrom
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6. Grigorenko - right choice over Bjugstad
16. Forsberg - steal
17. Teravainen - solid, high risk high reward
21. Hertl - solid, putting up great numbers against men, clearcut #1 prospect for SJ
29. Lindholm - nice, his value will skyrocket after the WJC I bet
36. Conacher - fair, could contribute very soon
45. Stone - solid, AHL time is a good thing
46. Vatanen - high risk, high reward, like it
47. Nelson - excellent choice, very underrated
50. Donovan - has chance at cracking roster soon (and PP time)
56. Brodin - absolute steal here
60. Shore - solid if Drew, if Nick, ok
66. Palmieri - if this is Kyle this is your steal of the draft
86. Pirri - very underrated, I like him
96. Faksa - absolute steal, surprised he made it out of the top 30
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Thanks for the feedback.

It is Drew Shore and Kyle Palmieri.

with the Faksa pick, i was picking between him, Jarnkrok, Jurco, Krug and Andy-Marchessault.

Krug and Andy-Marchessault would have been huge risk, maybe mediocre return.

And Jarnkrok and Jurco have great potential, and will be developed the right way by Detroit, but they may not make the NHL for 3-5 years with the talent that is ahead of them.

Faksa could play with Dallas right away, and with Roy being an UFA next year, Faksa could be playing Top 6 minutes in his 2nd year.

The only downside to the draft is that i'll have to drop half of my picks to get my AHL roster to 12, once the season starts.
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Active (12 F, 6 D, 2G)
F: Crosby(IR), Parise, E. Kane, Benn, JVR, Perron, Brassard, Roy, Ennis, Palmieri, Read, Conacher, Backlund
D: J. Johnson, Goligoski, Carlson, Burns, Shattenkirk(on loan), Brodin, Faulk
G: Quick, Bobrovsky

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F: Strome, Scheifele, Schwarz, Forsberg, Grigorenko, Teravainen, Shore
D: Merrill, Gormley, Lindholm
G: Allen, Markstrom
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