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Old 11-18-2012, 04:34 PM
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Made this move in a limited keeper where I was deciding between Duchene and Zetterberg for my last keeper.

Duchene for Baertschi + 3rd round pick in re-entry draft

League details:
12 team H2H keep 8 + 10 farm
Start: 2C, 2LW, 2RW, 3F, 4D, 2G
Stats: G=4, A=3, PPP=3, SHG=3, +/-=1, PIM=0.5, SOG=0.2, BLK=0.5 / W=3, SV=0.3, GA=-1, SHO=3

Keepers: Giroux, Tavares, Parise, Kopitar, Zetterberg/Duchene, Weber, Miller, Luongo

Farm: Tarasenko, Markstrom, Bernier, Bjugstad, Murphy, Orlov, Josefson, Colborne, Watson, Filatov

Now I'll slot Baertschi onto my farm and drop one of Watson/Filatov. I also have 2x 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 8th, 2x 9th, 2x 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th in the upcoming draft. How do you guys think I did?
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Farm: Chiasson, Killorn, Jenner, T. Johnson, Merrill, Rattie, Vatanen, Visentin, Wilson
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That's a great deal... it solves your keeper conundrum, and you get a decent replacement that you can chuck onto your farm for the next couple of years and snag a pick for it too.

You basically would have lost Duchene for nothing, so getting something back in return is perfect.

Seems good to me!
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That's a great deal... it solves your keeper conundrum, and you get a decent replacement that you can chuck onto your farm for the next couple of years and snag a pick for it too.

You basically would have lost Duchene for nothing, so getting something back in return is perfect.

Seems good to me!
Thanks, Ma. Always appreciate your advice and insight!
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C: Kopitar, Toews, Krejci, M. Koivu, Plekanec, Johansson
LW: Eriksson (RW), Hartnell, M. Richards (C), McDonald (C)
RW: Malkin (C), St. Louis, Eberle, Gaborik, Atkinson, Cole
D: Karlsson, Pietrangelo, Doughty, Suter, Goligoski, Carle, Beauchemin
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Farm: Chiasson, Killorn, Jenner, T. Johnson, Merrill, Rattie, Vatanen, Visentin, Wilson
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Made this move in a limited keeper where I was deciding between Duchene and Zetterberg for my last keeper.

Duchene for Baertschi + 3rd round pick in re-entry draft

League details:
12 team H2H keep 8 + 10 farm
Start: 2C, 2LW, 2RW, 3F, 4D, 2G
Stats: G=4, A=3, PPP=3, SHG=3, +/-=1, PIM=0.5, SOG=0.2, BLK=0.5 / W=3, SV=0.3, GA=-1, SHO=3

Keepers: Giroux, Tavares, Parise, Kopitar, Zetterberg/Duchene, Weber, Miller, Luongo

Farm: Tarasenko, Markstrom, Bernier, Bjugstad, Murphy, Orlov, Josefson, Colborne, Watson, Filatov


Now I'll slot Baertschi onto my farm and drop one of Watson/Filatov. I also have 2x 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 8th, 2x 9th, 2x 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th in the upcoming draft. How do you guys think I did?
I would have kept the younger Duchene and moved Zets for the same package. Bigger fan of Duchene. Baertschi is a great pickup, reminds me of a younger Hossa. If you're happy, i'm happy
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:58 PM
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I would have kept the younger Duchene and moved Zets for the same package. Bigger fan of Duchene. Baertschi is a great pickup, reminds me of a younger Hossa. If you're happy, i'm happy
I like Zets a bit more than Duchene in this setup, especially with SOG counted. Would have loved to Keep Duchene and keep my core younger, but Zets is still a beast so I can't complain. The guy needed Duchene in order to make this happen.
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C: Kopitar, Toews, Krejci, M. Koivu, Plekanec, Johansson
LW: Eriksson (RW), Hartnell, M. Richards (C), McDonald (C)
RW: Malkin (C), St. Louis, Eberle, Gaborik, Atkinson, Cole
D: Karlsson, Pietrangelo, Doughty, Suter, Goligoski, Carle, Beauchemin
G: Lundqvist, Fleury, Hiller

Farm: Chiasson, Killorn, Jenner, T. Johnson, Merrill, Rattie, Vatanen, Visentin, Wilson
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Very nice move.

You have some nice young keepers and having a consistent, reliable Zetterberg is a nice keep. And Baertschi immediately becomes your 2nd best farm player.
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I think by the end of it he'll have won the trade. Sorry to say. But what do I know
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SB will be a nice player. If i were moving Duchene, though, I would have wanted more. It's not a bad deal, but i can't say it's a good one either. The jury is out on this one, imo.
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I am not sure why some peeps think this is not a good deal for you. Your choice was 1 of either Duchene or Zetterberg. You might not particularly like giving up Duchene here but, you've got something back in return rather than nothing at all.

This is a win-win situation for both guys imo.
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I am not sure why some peeps think this is not a good deal for you. Your choice was 1 of either Duchene or Zetterberg. You might not particularly like giving up Duchene here but, you've got something back in return rather than nothing at all.

This is a win-win situation for both guys imo.
Exactly. It comes down to Zetterberg, Baertschi, and 3rd Round Pick reentry pick or Duchene and Watson/Filatov. Gimme Zets, SB, and the pick.

Maybe you could have gotten more for Duchene but a prospect that most people are putting in the top 10 and a pick is not bad. And there is no guarantee that Duchene is going to bounce back. There's a lot ways Colorado could go and Duchene was in Sacco's dog house last year.
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