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    Hey gang,

    So they have this thing over at Grantland called the Bad Quarterback League. I've been thinking that it would be tremendous amounts of fun to run something similar here (if/when we get NHL hockey) to celebrate all the terrible goaltending out there.

    Since we don't have hockey right now I figure it would be a good time to come up with a set of rules for this league and I'm taking it to you, here in the DobberHockey forum, to help me put together the rules.

    Here's what I have so far:

    You can have any number of managers in your league but let's say for instance you go with a 10-team league. You would conduct a snake draft with each manager drafting three goaltending tandems. Each week the managers must select which goaltending tandem they are choosing to start to attempt to accrue points.

    Here's how you get points:

    In-Game Scoring

    Save Percentage: for every 0.001 percent below 0.910 percent = 1 point

    Allow a Goal from Center Ice (also known as a Cloutier) = 50 points

    Tandem allows 5 goals in one game = 10 points

    Tandem allows 6 goals in one game = 20 points

    Tandem allows 7 goals in one game = 30 points

    Tandem allows 8 goals in one game = 40 points

    Tandem allows 9 goals in one game = 50 points

    Tandem allows 10 or more goals in one game = 100 points

    Starter is replaced by backup in the first period or during first intermission = 30 points

    Starter is replaced by backup during the second period or during the second intermission = 20 points

    Starter is replaced by backup during the third period = 10 points

    Goaltender is pulled for extra attacker (not during a delayed penalty) = 5 points

    Starter is replaced by backup during third intermission (for overtime) = 20 points

    Starter is replaced by backup for shootout = 50 points

    Backup plays so poorly that the starter is put back into the game = 50 points

    For every Penalty In Minute (PIM) = 5 points

    Goalie Fight = 50 points

    Allow all shooters to score in shootout = 20 points

    Allow overtime goal = 10 points

    24/7 Points

    We don’t want to reward injuries HOWEVER if your team has to engage in a last minute local goalie search = 25 Points

    If said local goalie dresses for the game = 25 points

    If said local goalie plays in the game = 300 points

    Arrested = 50 Points

    Team trades a goaltender (must be on NHL roster) = 50 points

    Team trades for a goaltender (must play NHL games following trade) = 50 points

    If your goaltenders are so bad there are rumours your team has contacted Dominic Hasek = 200 Points

    Get into a war of words with Don Cherry = 25 points

    Refusal to play in game(s) (also known as a Thomas) = 100 points

    Get suspended = 10 points per game

    Vote of confidence from coach/GM = 10 points

    Vote of non-confidence from coach/GM = 40 points

    Goaltender says, “I suck,” = 20 points

    Goaltender throws team(mates) under the bus = 10 points

    Negative Points

    Win = -10 points

    For every 0.001 percent above 0.910 save percentage = -1 point

    Post a shutout = -30 points

    Stop every shot in the shootout = -10 points

    Overtime win = -5 points

    Goalie Assist (Also known as a Brodeur) = -5 points

    FAQ

    Injuries – Goaltenders who are benched because of equipment issues or injuries will not receive benching points. You only get points for actually sucking. The exception to this rule would have been Pascal Leclaire but he retired.

    82-games – There are no goaltenders out there that start all 82 games in a season (or 41 for what would likely be this shortened season). As a result we will not go out of our way to reward teams that use their backups more than others. Instead, the starter will be referred to as whichever goalie starts a particular game. Points for usual starters that get benched will likely come via votes of confidence/non-confidence by the coach/GM.

    Save Percentage Points – This will be the total recorded by all goaltenders on the team for the entire scoring week not just for each individual game played.

    Trades – If a team trades for a goaltender and receives a goaltender in return you do not get double points. Only 50 points are awarded per transaction, however if a team trades one goaltender and then trades for a goaltender in two separate transactions then 100 points will be awarded.

    The Tim Thomas Rule – Any goaltender that is suspended or has declared his intention to sit out the season prior to your draft will not be awarded points.

    Vote of confidence – A vote of confidence will be subject to a judgement call by the writers here at DobberHockey but in general a coach/GM saying, “(Blank) is our guy/starter,” is what we are looking for in a vote of confidence. You can only receive one of these per week, regardless of how many times the coach/GM says it.

    Non-vote of confidence – Again, this will be subject to a judgement call by the DobberHockey writers but in general a non-vote of confidence would be something like a coach/GM saying, “We will ride the hot hand.”

    Goaltender says, “I suck” – This is also known as the Bryzgalov rule and will be subject to a judgement call by the DobberHockey writers but in general, if a goaltender alludes to lacking confidence then points will be awarded.

    24/7 Points – Are awarded to your team regardless of whether you start that particular tandem.

    Please keep in mind that I won't be running your league. It's up to you to find participants and run your own draft. What I will be doing is breaking down the most terrible goaltenders each week and updating the point totals for each tandem so that you and your friends can bask in the glory of putrid goaltending!

    Does this sound like something you’d want to participate in? Let me know with your comments below and please give as much feedback about potential rules/scoring changes you would like to see implemented!
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    I think there should be a Roy rule as well. Demanding a trade during or immediately after a shelling.
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    I feel like I should be banned from this league because it'd just be too easy for me

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    i have wanted to do this for position players too...

    who can field the worst team of players that accumulate the worst totals for a multi-cat roto league. it would be fun to have a league where darrol powe could be a first round pick...

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    Watching Crosby, Stamkos, Malkin, OV, etc. all sit on the waiver wire would be bizarre.
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    this could be fun. id join a league.
    if we had a league with a lot of teams it would force guys to pick some pretty good goalies, and that would be interesting to see some minus points.
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    C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
    LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
    RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
    D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
    G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov

    under250gp=nichushkin,tuch,mathesson,marino,pujuja rvi,hosang,terry,andersson,j.hughes,patrik,crouse, zadina,podkolzin,k.miller,nedeljkovic,kravtsov,hay ton

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinsrangers View Post
    this could be fun. id join a league.
    if we had a league with a lot of teams it would force guys to pick some pretty good goalies, and that would be interesting to see some minus points.
    Be interesting if it was a 20 "team" league with a minimum number of starts required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondon View Post
    I feel like I should be banned from this league because it'd just be too easy for me
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    I've seen similar versions of this novelty league idea in points only fantasy baseball leagues. You had to select the worst team possible all while fielding players who are regular starters. Don't see why something like that wouldn't work for hockey. It's a fun diversion from the more serious fantasy leagues. I wouldn't want to do more then one such, but novelty leagues are a blast.
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    I'd love to do this as a points-only-style using just "most goals against".

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    I think if you have points for above/below sv%, you should have points for goals against as well.

    If you wanna make it as complex as the rest of your scoring system, you could do it like this:

    Goal Against by player with career point-per-game avg above 0.75 = 2 points. So if a good player scores, 2 pts.
    Goal against by player with career ppg avg btwn 0.50-0.74 = 3 points. If a mediocre player scores, 3 pts.
    Goal against by player with career ppg avg btwn 0.25-0.49 = 5 points. If a bad player scores, 5 pts.
    Goal against by player with career ppg avg btwn 0.00-0.24 = 10 points. If Darrol Powe scores, 10 pts. lol

    Only problem is for players with not many games to their name. Maybe if they have less than 100 games, any goal against is worth 4 points lol. That puts them between the 2nd and 3rd level lol.

    ALSO: If you have this and another legit league, don't get them mixed up for the week... lol
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    W, saves, GAA, SV%, SO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    I'd love to do this as a points-only-style using just "most goals against".
    ya id play this. makes it really easy.
    10 team Full Keeper Roto League
    4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.

    C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
    LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
    RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
    D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
    G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov

    under250gp=nichushkin,tuch,mathesson,marino,pujuja rvi,hosang,terry,andersson,j.hughes,patrik,crouse, zadina,podkolzin,k.miller,nedeljkovic,kravtsov,hay ton

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    Why is everybody picking on Darrol Powe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaldude26 View Post
    Why is everybody picking on Darrol Powe?
    I only made fun of him because someone else had already mentioned him... lol
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    W, saves, GAA, SV%, SO

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    4D- Rielly
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondon View Post
    I feel like I should be banned from this league because it'd just be too easy for me
    In this league you'd be picking Lundqvist and Quick every week.
    20 Team Dynasty (points per) - G (25, 50 for defense) A (25) PIM (3) PPP (15) SHP (25) OTG (15) GWG (25) HTr (50) SOW (75) HIT (1) BLK (2) W (50) SHO (100) OTL (10) GA (-15) SV (2) Use actual NHL salary

    Start 12 F, 6 D, 1G weekly

    F: Kucherov, Marchand, Barkov, Gaudreau, Laine, Aho, Dubois, Dadonov, Huberdeau, Trocheck, Bertuzzi, Beauvillier, Khaira, Grigorenko

    D: Ekman-Larsson, Yandle, Edler, Pulock, Borowiecki, Weegar, Mike Reilly

    G: Andersen, Hart

    Farm: Boldy, Beckman, Wise, Mascherin, Kovalenko, Manukyan, Walker, Morozov, Shafigullin, Palmu, Tychonic, Zhuravlyov, Kesselring, Zamula, Lankinen, Sogaard, Ingram, Rybar

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