Trade/final keeperSpot
Would you guys in an offseason move Kris Medlen AND a guy I will drop Josh Johnson for Maddy Bumgarner?
Is he an upgrade on Medlen in your opinion?
Do you prefer Jered Weaver instead?
thanks
Last edited by ddp; January 29, 2013 at 4:27 PM.
Contract Fantrax 14 teams, 8 keepers. 4 max lifers +/-
3C, 3LW, 3RW, 1F. 5D,2G....5Reserves.
Goal heavy. G=3.5 A=2 Add 0.5pts for D.
Goalies:W=3,SO=4,start=2,Save=.1
Assist +4, OF loss +1 loss= -1 Goal against -1
C:MACKINNON,Kadri,Rossi,Thompson
LW: KANE,HUBERDEAU,Marchand,kotkaniemi,Colton,N.Robert son
RW:KUCHEROV,RANTANEN,Kessel,Bjorkstrand
FOX,BURNS,Jones,Girard,lundkist,Hanafin
G:CAMPBELL,Swayman
Minors:Mctavish,Johnson
of the three, i prefer medlen. weaver's peripherals are in a free fall. something seems wrong with his elbow. also, i am leery of bummer's sept. he throws lots of sliders, which is another red flag. at least medlen is healthy and on a team that appears ready to contend. and has a great bullpen.Originally Posted by ddp
agree with your plan to drop/trade JJ.
dobber pro 2012-2013; campbell conference
c; b richards, ribiero, desharnias, zajac
lw; sedin, e kane, pacioretty, kunitz
rw; kessel, callaghan, cole, paranteau
d; chara, seabrook, souray, leddy, markov, s elliott
g; rinne, elliott
bench; garon, giguerre, hodgson, orpik, d roy
ir; nobody, yet
Medlen:
THe positives:
1 - His stats were unreal.
2 - He's an NL pitcher meaning more K's without the DH.
3 - He's on a contender and ace of the staff it appears.
The negatives and only reason I'm not 100% happy to keep him
1 - 28yrs old isn't a big deal but he's an older breakout.
2 - He was an RP, meaning will he have the stamina to pitch 200 inns?
3 - had a very high strand rate...left a lot on the bases. (lucky)
4 - Pretty well unproven in a full season.
Contract Fantrax 14 teams, 8 keepers. 4 max lifers +/-
3C, 3LW, 3RW, 1F. 5D,2G....5Reserves.
Goal heavy. G=3.5 A=2 Add 0.5pts for D.
Goalies:W=3,SO=4,start=2,Save=.1
Assist +4, OF loss +1 loss= -1 Goal against -1
C:MACKINNON,Kadri,Rossi,Thompson
LW: KANE,HUBERDEAU,Marchand,kotkaniemi,Colton,N.Robert son
RW:KUCHEROV,RANTANEN,Kessel,Bjorkstrand
FOX,BURNS,Jones,Girard,lundkist,Hanafin
G:CAMPBELL,Swayman
Minors:Mctavish,Johnson
Bumgarner by a lot for me, and i love Medlen.
Bumgarner
Medlen
weaver
i don't think medlen will give you 200 innings.
i do think his ratio will be elite.
as an under-sized RH pitcher, i think he will always be an injury risk.
i think that risk is mitigated by his repertoire; four pitches which rely and accuracy and movement. his plus plus change. no slider.
he has one of MLB's best bullpens working behind him, which helps explain the elevated strand rate, and give confidence in predicting plus wins.
he is a risk, but less risky in some ways than weaver or bummer.
i am really concerned about bummer's elbow. the september loss of velocity and control, coupled with the high % of sliders he throws, i see a red flag. hopefully nothing.
over the last few seasons, weaver has shown a marked decline in his peripherals. 2012 K/9 a career low. three year upswing in siera, peaking at 4.02. babip, .241 in 2012, suggests his <3 era was somewhat lucky. critical #; he's lost 2 mph off all his FB's. every spring, he explains that the elbow soreness he experiences, is 'normal'.
taken all together, i think this is a good time to stand pat.
dobber pro 2012-2013; campbell conference
c; b richards, ribiero, desharnias, zajac
lw; sedin, e kane, pacioretty, kunitz
rw; kessel, callaghan, cole, paranteau
d; chara, seabrook, souray, leddy, markov, s elliott
g; rinne, elliott
bench; garon, giguerre, hodgson, orpik, d roy
ir; nobody, yet
I second this list.
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken."
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
2 for bummy and one for Medlen...I'm no closer to a decision
Others I could target: scherzer, latos, greinke, sale, Gonzalez,wainwright,cueto, Halladay.
Contract Fantrax 14 teams, 8 keepers. 4 max lifers +/-
3C, 3LW, 3RW, 1F. 5D,2G....5Reserves.
Goal heavy. G=3.5 A=2 Add 0.5pts for D.
Goalies:W=3,SO=4,start=2,Save=.1
Assist +4, OF loss +1 loss= -1 Goal against -1
C:MACKINNON,Kadri,Rossi,Thompson
LW: KANE,HUBERDEAU,Marchand,kotkaniemi,Colton,N.Robert son
RW:KUCHEROV,RANTANEN,Kessel,Bjorkstrand
FOX,BURNS,Jones,Girard,lundkist,Hanafin
G:CAMPBELL,Swayman
Minors:Mctavish,Johnson
Bumgarner2 for bummy and one for Medlen...I'm no closer to a decision
Others I could target: scherzer, latos, greinke, sale, Gonzalez,wainwright,cueto, Halladay.
Wainwright
Greinke
Medlen
Sale
I like Medlen, but i take Bumgarner/Wainwright/Greinke in a second for him.
You aren't concerned about the above post about bummy's slider and elbow? He did slow down big time at end of year.
Contract Fantrax 14 teams, 8 keepers. 4 max lifers +/-
3C, 3LW, 3RW, 1F. 5D,2G....5Reserves.
Goal heavy. G=3.5 A=2 Add 0.5pts for D.
Goalies:W=3,SO=4,start=2,Save=.1
Assist +4, OF loss +1 loss= -1 Goal against -1
C:MACKINNON,Kadri,Rossi,Thompson
LW: KANE,HUBERDEAU,Marchand,kotkaniemi,Colton,N.Robert son
RW:KUCHEROV,RANTANEN,Kessel,Bjorkstrand
FOX,BURNS,Jones,Girard,lundkist,Hanafin
G:CAMPBELL,Swayman
Minors:Mctavish,Johnson
I read an article last year about how the slider is the hardest pitch on the elbow and leads to the most TJ surgeries.
Dynasty League
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SOG, W, GAA, SV, SO, SV%
C- A.Matthews, J.Eichel, N.Hischier, C.Dvorak
LW- N.Ehlers, A.Galchenyuk, J.Schwartz, J.Vesey, R.Fabbri
RW - N.Niederrieter, A.Duclair, M.Hoffman, C.Coyle
D - I.Provorov, M.Sergachev, M.Dumba, T.Barrie, R.Ellis, C.Ceci, D.Pouliot
G- B.Bishop, S.Varlamov, J.Sarros
Prospects- D.Sprong, J.Gillies, T.Jarry, T.Liljegren, F.Chytil, L.Soderstrom
With any pitcher, there is concern. I think he just got a bit tired at the end, so a bit of drop in velocity.
He had one 4 inning blowup at Coors.
He looked nice in his last game, 7 innings, 2 hits in WS.
I've always been a fan of his too...bummy....I actually owned him and had to trade last year to make room. Tough one. I may go for it.
Contract Fantrax 14 teams, 8 keepers. 4 max lifers +/-
3C, 3LW, 3RW, 1F. 5D,2G....5Reserves.
Goal heavy. G=3.5 A=2 Add 0.5pts for D.
Goalies:W=3,SO=4,start=2,Save=.1
Assist +4, OF loss +1 loss= -1 Goal against -1
C:MACKINNON,Kadri,Rossi,Thompson
LW: KANE,HUBERDEAU,Marchand,kotkaniemi,Colton,N.Robert son
RW:KUCHEROV,RANTANEN,Kessel,Bjorkstrand
FOX,BURNS,Jones,Girard,lundkist,Hanafin
G:CAMPBELL,Swayman
Minors:Mctavish,Johnson
Yeah, he's a notorious slow starter. Whether it be in the regular season or playoffs. Once he gets past that, he is one of the best in the game.
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken."
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
Waiting on a Bautista offer instead. We'll see what he says. My power would be nuts if I land injury prone bautista.
Would you boys say this is a no brainer? get Bautista instead of Bummgarner?
Don't even know if either owner will accept but....
Contract Fantrax 14 teams, 8 keepers. 4 max lifers +/-
3C, 3LW, 3RW, 1F. 5D,2G....5Reserves.
Goal heavy. G=3.5 A=2 Add 0.5pts for D.
Goalies:W=3,SO=4,start=2,Save=.1
Assist +4, OF loss +1 loss= -1 Goal against -1
C:MACKINNON,Kadri,Rossi,Thompson
LW: KANE,HUBERDEAU,Marchand,kotkaniemi,Colton,N.Robert son
RW:KUCHEROV,RANTANEN,Kessel,Bjorkstrand
FOX,BURNS,Jones,Girard,lundkist,Hanafin
G:CAMPBELL,Swayman
Minors:Mctavish,Johnson
I need more details on your league settings before I can answer that.
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken."
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
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