Huge Trade! Need Help!

[Richard Parker]

I've been mulling this over for almost 24 hours straight now. It's for the team in sig. I currently sit in second, trailing first by 6 points. This one is tough for me because this trade will definitely take me out of contention. Although, coming into this season, I didn't think I was going to win anyways. I think I need to wait a year for guys like Granlund, Silfverberg and hopefully Josi to come into their own.

Here's the offer:

St. Louis
Datsyuk
Boyle

FOR

Perry
Lupul OR Barrie
Karlsson

I need help! Please! lol. Can't stop thinking about it.

[bumchilly25]

Man, that's a tough one. It certainly would drop you out of contention, but being able to snag Karlsson...that's where it's at.

Tough call, but if you really don't think your team can hold it together to challenge, I take Perry (he will catch fire soon too) Lupul and Karlsson.

Good luck!

[9601]

I've been mulling this over for almost 24 hours straight now. It's for the team in sig. I currently sit in second, trailing first by 6 points. This one is tough for me because this trade will definitely take me out of contention. Although, coming into this season, I didn't think I was going to win anyways. I think I need to wait a year for guys like Granlund, Silfverberg and hopefully Josi to come into their own.

Here's the offer:

St. Louis
Datsyuk
Boyle

FOR

Perry
Lupul OR Barrie
Karlsson

I need help! Please! lol. Can't stop thinking about it.

I'd do it. He's right in that you're gonna lose momentarily this year, but you gain big time in the long term. Even though it looks like he can play until he's 45, St. Louis is getting up there in age, as are Boyle and Datsyuk.

In the long term you'll be getting younger and better. That being said I don't know where they'll but Lupul when he gets back (what with Kessel's chemistry with JVR).

Still, being able to get Perry AND Karlsson in one deal? Done and done.

[Richard Parker]

Tough call, but if you really don't think your team can hold it together to challenge, I take Perry (he will catch fire soon too) Lupul and Karlsson.

I honestly don't think I can hold it together for the win this year. Main thing is I don't have many trade assets as guys like Nyquist, Larsen, Elliott and even Silfverberg and Granlund don't hold as much value as they should because not all the GMs in my league know much about prospects.

Thanks for the input bumchilly.

[Richard Parker]

I'd do it. He's right in that you're gonna lose momentarily this year, but you gain big time in the long term. Even though it looks like he can play until he's 45, St. Louis is getting up there in age, as are Boyle and Datsyuk.

In the long term you'll be getting younger and better. That being said I don't know where they'll but Lupul when he gets back (what with Kessel's chemistry with JVR).

Still, being able to get Perry AND Karlsson in one deal? Done and done.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly, bud.

[pmkidd]

I would do it. Lose 3 older but really good players. Get 2 younger beasts of players.

[NUCKER101]

I would take that for sure in a keeper format, pick Lupul over Barrie though.




Do you mind helping me in return? http://forums.dobbersports.com/showthread.php?t=147351

Thanks and good luck!

[newfcollins]

I think you're crazy if you accept the deal. You're in second place. Go for the win this year. Who cares about next year if you can do it this year? I could understand if you were in sixth place, but second?

What happens next season if Crosby gets injured, it takes karlsson a while to get back to his usual self, and Ribeiro signs in Columbus in the offseason? Or whatever. Your guys are going well now. Use that while you can.

When you have a chance to win now, you go for the win now. You're only six points back. That's nothing in a points only pool.

[Richard Parker]

I think you're crazy if you accept the deal. You're in second place. Go for the win this year. Who cares about next year if you can do it this year? I could understand if you were in sixth place, but second?

What happens next season if Crosby gets injured, it takes karlsson a while to get back to his usual self, and Ribeiro signs in Columbus in the offseason? Or whatever. Your guys are going well now. Use that while you can.

When you have a chance to win now, you go for the win now. You're only six points back. That's nothing in a points only pool.

Newf, at the moment my 12th forward is Granlund with 6 points and my 6th d-man is Josi with 3 points. Both of those players are counting for me right now. After that, the only depth I have is Silfverberg at 6 points and Philip Larsen with 1 point.

Point is that my depth for this year in Silfverberg/Granlund and Josi is not good enough to win in my league. To add to that, and like I said in the first post, there aren't many GMs in my league that believe in Silfverberg, Granlund, Nyquist, Elliott, Josi and Larsen enough for me to trade them for the pieces I need to win this year (there's no way I can win this year with the way my team is right now. I would need to make a couple of changes). They don't read this website lol.

But I understand your point. We're in these things to win them, which is why this is difficult for me. I just feel that (1) I truly believe I can't win this year and (2) I really like the return on the trade.

[newfcollins]

Newf, at the moment my 12th forward is Granlund with 6 points and my 6th d-man is Josi with 3 points. Both of those players are counting for me right now. After that, the only depth I have is Silfverberg at 6 points and Philip Larsen with 1 point.

Point is that my depth for this year in Silfverberg/Granlund and Josi is not good enough to win in my league. To add to that, and like I said in the first post, there aren't many GMs in my league that believe in Silfverberg, Granlund, Nyquist, Elliott, Josi and Larsen enough for me to trade them for the pieces I need to win this year (there's no way I can win this year with the way my team is right now. I would need to make a couple of changes). They don't read this website lol.

But I understand your point. We're in these things to win them, which is why this is difficult for me. I just feel that (1) I truly believe I can't win this year and (2) I really like the return on the trade.

You can trade Fleury for an upgrade. Or Eriksson. Or Galch. Or whoever. Trade one of them for someone not as big a name but having a much better year.

You don't need to sell the prospects if people don't want them. Trade the ones guys want.

Obviously, your situation changes if one of your top players get injured or something. But I'm a huge believer in if you have a shot, you take. You may not get the opportunity again for a few years.

[Axeman33]

If I read all the posts and your replies to them, you have already made up your mind and want to make the deal.

Go make the trade and hope for next year.

[Richard Parker]

If I read all the posts and your replies to them, you have already made up your mind and want to make the deal.

Go make the trade and hope for next year.

Ya, I definitely want to make the deal. Just trying to make sure it's the right move. The thing is, if I wasn't in contention, wouldn't this trade be a no-brainer?

[Richard Parker]

Obviously, your situation changes if one of your top players get injured or something. But I'm a huge believer in if you have a shot, you take. You may not get the opportunity again for a few years

This is another thing. I've been very lucky with injuries so far this year, but if I get even one long-term injury to any one of my top 12 forards or 6 d-men, I'm pretty much done because I don't have the depth to replace the lost points.

[bumchilly25]

What's on the line? Money? Pride? A bit of both.

My league has $1500 in prizes to the top teams, so I could understand the reason for the delay. If it's just bragging rights....you'd better get it done before the other owner opts out. Even if it is a big payday, you should be reaping the rewards of this deal for years to come.....

[Richard Parker]

Just made the deal...kind of bittersweet...I'm happy with my decision though, so...what else can you ask for really?

Bumchilly, I guess a bit of both were on the line. Not so much the money because it's a $400 prize which is good, but not $1500 obviously. Probably more pride now that I think about it because I would have loved to have that sweet trophy in my family room again this year, but it's not going to happen now. Oh well, here's to many championships in the future!

Thanks for all the input, gents.