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    Hey guys,
    I have the 11th pick of a 1 year h2h(G,A,P,PP,+-,SHP,GWG) and already losing sleep over my first round pick.

    I'm having a tough time deciding between these 3 studs, primarily neal and seguin because theres a decent chance Tavares wont even be there.

    I really think Seguin is this years breakout to elite, the giroux factor from last year in other words. But obviously i'm having a difficult time looking past his orank and where people are drafting him in mocks.

    Seguin does it all and the plusminus really makes me want to overlook tavares even. With all the divisional play I think tavares will have his hands full.

    Am i crazy to be considering Tyler seguin over neal and taveras, and others who will most likely be there like kessel, kovalchuk?

    ive dismissed kessel because i think hes bound for some difficulties in a defensive carlyle system with a condensed schedule, and kovalchuk has no one to play with.

    But someone please knock some sense into me and tell me i should obviously be snagging neal!

    i'm a leafs fan which makes this even worse

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    I've probably been the single biggest Neal supporter on these boards over the last couple of years, but with no PIM or SOG he definitely loses some value in your league.

    With your particular cats the smart money says Tavares, Seguin, then Neal. That being said I would t fault you for taking seguin over Tavares in this particular setup.
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    thanks Buck, Huge neal fan since his early dallas days too, his name doesnt scream starpower but with malk and crosby hes pretty much a lock for his point per game stats

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    I'd want Tavares.
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    No offence to Neal but IMO he is not even in the same hemisphere as the other 2. Give me Tavares on top rather easily...
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    i agree with the tavares sentiment however the likelyhood of him being there at 11 is almost nonexistant

    so in a 1 year im probably taking neal

    unless there are 4 or more goalie cats and one of lundqvist quick or rinne are there then i am going for one of them
     
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    Any distinction between LW and C?

    If not take Seguin over Neal. Tavares trumps both obviously.

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    Give me Tavares on this one!
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    Tavares easily for me. If it came down to Neal vs. Seguin, I would certainly take Neal in a one year league.

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    I would rank them as:
    Tavares
    Neal
    Seguin
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    Thanks guys, looks like most agree with the oranks

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerekReese View Post
    I would rank them as:
    Tavares
    Neal
    Seguin
    Yup, I second this list for one-year multi-cat leagues.
    I drafted Tavares with the 6th overall pick in two consecutive one-year multi-cat leagues. (Crosby/Malkin/Stamkos/Ovechkin/Lundqvist/Giroux are the consensus top 6 this year... though some, like me, put Tavares into that mix.)

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    In a one year, I'd go with Neal over Seguin but it's so close that you can't go wrong with either.

    Obviously, if Tavares is still there at 11th, I'd go with him and thank the Lord.

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    I would rank them as:
    Tavares
    Seguin
    Neal
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    Guys - keep in mind that although the OP's league is "multi-cat" it DOES NOT include SOG or PIM - both categories where Neal really adds value.

    I think the OP's multi-cat format actually favours Seguin if anything due to +/-.

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