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    Default Stastny for Enstrom

    Is it a fair trade in this league setting?

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    Not sure what categories your league has, but it's safe to say that Enstrom holds more value, I'd say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CascadeFilly View Post
    Not sure what categories your league has, but it's safe to say that Enstrom holds more value, I'd say.
    By how much? if you own Enstrom and is looking for F upgrade, what additional value (throw a name out there) would you want?

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    I'm hoping for a Stastny bounceback, but I'm with CascadeFilly here -- Enstrom is considerably more valuable.

    The additional name would depend on your roster I suppose. Hard to make suggestions with so little information.

    Basically, Enstrom is still a top tier d-man. He's been good for 50 points in the past, puts up some PIM, and PPP.
    Stastny has been middling the last couple years.
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    F: Sidney Crosby, Milan Lucic, Evander Kane, Mikko Koivu, Paul Stastny, Joffrey Lupul, Kris Versteeg, Kyle Okposo, Chris Kunitz, Cody Hodgson, Mikhail Grabovski, Steve Downie, Jiri Hudler, Marcus Johansson, Martin Hanzal, Craig Smith, Brian Gionta

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    Are you looking to make a fair offer? Or was this offered to you?

    If this was offered, and you own Stastny, take it quickly.

    If you're looking to make a fair offer on him, and this is your team, it'd depend on the other guy's team. Does he have depth at D? Is he weak at forward? Who would he drop to make room if it was a 2-for-1? Too many questions to be clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STONE. View Post
    Are you looking to make a fair offer? Or was this offered to you?

    If this was offered, and you own Stastny, take it quickly.

    If you're looking to make a fair offer on him, and this is your team, it'd depend on the other guy's team. Does he have depth at D? Is he weak at forward? Who would he drop to make room if it was a 2-for-1? Too many questions to be clear.
    I am looking to make a fair offer. Just assume he has D depth and in need of F. To make it a 2 for 2 deal, assume i get back a F like Boedker.

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    I don't think this is the time to be moving Stastny - I believe he is undervalued right now and will improve his stock considerably. However if you can get Enstrom for Stastny straightup it's probably a pretty decent deal for both if it fills needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoeless View Post
    I don't think this is the time to be moving Stastny - I believe he is undervalued right now and will improve his stock considerably. However if you can get Enstrom for Stastny straightup it's probably a pretty decent deal for both if it fills needs.

    My thought exactly. Also, my league is also about 250 forwards and 100 D deep. Best players available on waivers, for both F and D, scored about the same amounts of points last year (~19 pts). I don't think I should put any premium on D, or should I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scimo View Post
    My thought exactly. Also, my league is also about 250 forwards and 100 D deep. Best players available on waivers, for both F and D, scored about the same amounts of points last year (~19 pts). I don't think I should put any premium on D, or should I?
    Actually your present D are pretty underwhelming. Problem for me is that I am not the biggest fan of Enstrom in a multicat league. I dunno - it isn't a bad trade but I wonder if down the road you might do better.

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    Scimo is talking about my team. It would be with my second team in my signature. Scimo is a worthy trade partner but I value enstrom higher and I drafted hin earlier. Its tough to give up a def when I only have 6. Any suggestions for us? How can I rip him off? Haha just kidding.
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    Stastny did show a spark down the stretch last year, but I'd still take Enstrom over him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoeless View Post
    Actually your present D are pretty underwhelming. Problem for me is that I am not the biggest fan of Enstrom in a multicat league. I dunno - it isn't a bad trade but I wonder if down the road you might do better.
    And yes that's why I had him value about the same as Stastny. Enstrom probably still value a bit more in general opinion, but the upside for Stastny is probably higher.

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    So the line up for both team are:

    My team:

    F: Sidney Crosby, Milan Lucic, Evander Kane, Mikko Koivu, Paul Stastny, Joffrey Lupul, Kris Versteeg, Kyle Okposo, Chris Kunitz, Cody Hodgson, Mikhail Grabovski, Steve Downie, Jiri Hudler, Marcus Johansson, Martin Hanzal, Craig Smith, Brian Gionta

    D: Kyle Quincey, Marek Zidlicky, Tom Gilbert, Tyson Barrie, David Savard

    G: Ilya Bryzgalov, Kari Lehtonen, Semyon Varlamov

    TRazzy's team:

    Team #2

    F - Hall, Landeskog, Pavelski, Wheeler, Ennis, Desharnais, B Schenn, O'Reilly, Nyquist, Bozak, Zibanejad, Boedker, Eakin, K Palmieri, Josefson, Coyle

    D - Karlsson, Edler, Enstrom, Goligoski, Leddy, Hedman

    G - Quick Khudobin Greiss


    What would be a fair trade for Enstrom?

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    I think Stastny for Enstrom is pretty darn fair actually.

    As long as one team needs a defenseman and the other one needs a forward, couldn't be more even than that IMO.
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