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    Another GM wants Benn and wants to get rid of Ovechkin.

    The trade is: My Benn, Doughty and my 1st round pick next year, for his Ovechkin, Yandle and 4th round pick next year.

    The only thing I am hesistant about is with Benn and his value in multi-cat and his possible upside 2-3 years from now. Also giving up the first round pick, but that's the cost. Does Benn's youth and upside outweigh Ovechkin's possible decline?

    Is this a no-brainer? My keepers would be Malkin, Backstrom, OV, Karlsson, Rinne. Not too shabby.

    Appreciate any replies
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    I wouldn't do it. I think Benn's back soon and will out value OV. The fact you have to toss in Doughty, who I think has a big bounce back and your 1st = too much.

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    am i missing something

    he wants your player and he no longer wants his player and he gets to dictate the terms of the deal
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    am i missing something

    he wants your player and he no longer wants his player and he gets to dictate the terms of the deal
    No dictating..right now this is the offer, but it can easily change.

    It's a back and forth negotiation. I will take advantage of any leverage.
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    the leverage should be yours

    he wants to dump ovechkin he wants to acquire benn

    sounds like you have all the leverage to me

    make the deal that ovechkin for benn
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    the leverage should be yours

    he wants to dump ovechkin he wants to acquire benn

    sounds like you have all the leverage to me

    make the deal that ovechkin for benn
    Sure that's a given, but he isn't an idiot. He is going to ask for what he thinks is fair value regardless.
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    When ur league dosn't count hits, thats too much for Ovie. I've been trying to get Benn with no luck, he carries alot of value in my mind.
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    he doesnt get to determine fair value you do
     
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    What does his team look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by horrorfan View Post
    What does his team look like?
    E.Staal, Marchand, OV, Ladd, Lupol, Skinner, Franzen, Cole, Weiss, Yandle, Streit, Seabrooke, boychuk, ellis, Rask, Lehtonen
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    he doesnt get to determine fair value you do
    So bottomline you think I am paying too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomePete View Post
    Another GM wants Benn and wants to get rid of Ovechkin.

    The trade is: My Benn, Doughty and my 1st round pick next year, for his Ovechkin, Yandle and 4th round pick next year.

    The only thing I am hesistant about is with Benn and his value in multi-cat and his possible upside 2-3 years from now. Also giving up the first round pick, but that's the cost. Does Benn's youth and upside outweigh Ovechkin's possible decline?

    Is this a no-brainer? My keepers would be Malkin, Backstrom, OV, Karlsson, Rinne. Not too shabby.

    Appreciate any replies
    Honestly, you have the leverage, so you set the bar. I'd much rather have Doughty and the 1st over Yandle and the fourth. Maybe he doesn't understand that he has 2013 OV, not 2005 - 2010 OV. I'd counter with Benn for OV straight up or Benn + 2nd for Ov + 3rd or no deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomePete View Post
    So bottomline you think I am paying too much.
    considering the situation yes i think you are paying too much

    if this was you pursuing ovechkin out of the blue i might have a different take but the fact that he wants out of ovechkin and he wants benn to me means you have the leverage he doesnt

    i would do the deal without the picks
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomePete View Post
    Another GM wants Benn and wants to get rid of Ovechkin.

    The trade is: My Benn, Doughty and my 1st round pick next year, for his Ovechkin, Yandle and 4th round pick next year.

    The only thing I am hesistant about is with Benn and his value in multi-cat and his possible upside 2-3 years from now. Also giving up the first round pick, but that's the cost. Does Benn's youth and upside outweigh Ovechkin's possible decline?

    Is this a no-brainer? My keepers would be Malkin, Backstrom, OV, Karlsson, Rinne. Not too shabby.

    Appreciate any replies
    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomePete View Post
    E.Staal, Marchand, OV, Ladd, Lupol, Skinner, Franzen, Cole, Weiss, Yandle, Streit, Seabrooke, boychuk, ellis, Rask, Lehtonen
    Looking back at your signature, it's a keep 5 with 12 teams, so a 1st round pick would be 61-72 and 4th round pick would be 97-108 correct? How much difference would you expect there be talent-wise between those picks? If not too much, then I'd be tempted to counter by taking out the D and just doing Benn+1st for Ovechkin+4th. Yandle in a league with blocks is not as valuable.

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