View Poll Results: Kane or Nugent-Hopkins?

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Thread: [Cage Match Tournament] #3 Kane vs. #6 Nugent-Hopkins

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    Default [Cage Match Tournament] #3 Kane vs. #6 Nugent-Hopkins

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    Color this Kane voter surprised at the results thus far.
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    apart from injuries, these two would have similar point totals this year (if not RNH out-producing) include age (negligible), and perceived upside i think it makes sense.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SK47 View Post
    apart from injuries, these two would have similar point totals this year (if not RNH out-producing) include age (negligible), and perceived upside i think it makes sense.....
    It does make sense, if you ignore the injuries. I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomm Bastic View Post
    Color this Kane voter surprised at the results thus far.
    Same here. Voted for Kane. He's still and young and far more proven than RNH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcillo View Post
    Same here. Voted for Kane. He's still and young and far more proven than RNH.
    Yeah and i don't know that I can ignore the injuries to RNH. Certainly not band aid status but if my job is to assign keeper value between the two, I look at the totality not merely what a player could be...at some point in the future.

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    Thanks, MD, don't know if you set out with that intent but this is quite the educational experience.
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    Yeah I thought this one and the Toews/Eberle one were tight. When in doubt though I go with the proven talent (or in this case the 'more proven' talent)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomm Bastic View Post
    Yeah and i don't know that I can ignore the injuries to RNH. Certainly not band aid status but if my job is to assign keeper value between the two, I look at the totality not merely what a player could be...at some point in the future.

    Aside, and off topic (kinda)....

    Law of unintended consequences: this exercise is forcing me to really assess my own protocol for player valuation, with regard to my teams. To view them through a more objective looking glass rather than rose colored emotionally hyped, rose colored glasses, if you like.

    Thanks, MD, don't know if you set out with that intent but this is quite the educational experience.
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    I voted for RNH in this case. I know that proven is almost always a plus, but I have seen what Kane can do and I think 90 is the max we will ever see from him. He has some of the best linemates and he still can't break in to 90 pts.

    RNH on the other hand in his rookie year was over a PPG pace with Eberle and Hall both healthy. I would be taking the chance here because the worst case scenario RNH becomes a 75-80 pt player on his own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boogeypop View Post
    I voted for RNH in this case. I know that proven is almost always a plus, but I have seen what Kane can do and I think 90 is the max we will ever see from him. He has some of the best linemates and he still can't break in to 90 pts.

    RNH on the other hand in his rookie year was over a PPG pace with Eberle and Hall both healthy. I would be taking the chance here because the worst case scenario RNH becomes a 75-80 pt player on his own.
    Also voted RNH. Both have great linemates, both are young, both were 1sts overall. That Kane followed up his 88 point season with 2 disappointing ones, while RNH was looking to have a 80 point rookie season, made my decision.
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    I'm for Kane here. Sure he's having a major mid-season slump, but he's still better rounded at this point.
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    heh. anyone else suspicious that if you own one of these guys, and offer him for the other, that offer is going to be refused regardless of who has who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultrawhiteness View Post
    heh. anyone else suspicious that if you own one of these guys, and offer him for the other, that offer is going to be refused regardless of who has who?
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    I will take RNH her It is close and his (RNH) injurys this year concern me a little, but I just don't see the same upside from Kane. Kane can certainly be a 90pt guy but I see RNH as being a 110 pt player in 3 years...
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    Close one but in this situation as other stated before i´d go with the proven. Gimme Kane.
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