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    The offer I just received is Zetterberg, Franzen, and Keith for Malkin and Barberio
    Now, I'm sure Barberio is very negotiable anyway, but my roster is full, so to take those 3 players I would have to ditch 2 anyway. I'd be more likely to send out Palmieri and Khudobin. I obviuosly lack depth at all positions, so it certainly fills a need. But, is that even fair value for Malkin? He could easily finish 40 points up on Zetterberg, and Im not sure if Keith and Franzen make that up on my bottom guys. It does give me 3 guys with lots of +- and SOG. I'll probably counter but who should I target?

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    W-Franzen, Nash, Ovechkin(untouchable), Perry, Clarkson
    D- Burns, Harmonic, Keith,Weber, Gonchar,McQuade
    G-Lundqvist, Hiller
    Minor eligable-Rattie, Erixon,Strome, Landeskog, Holtby.

    I'd really like to change Zett out for Tavares, but I doubt he's buying that. I could probably shore up my back up G with a Hiller-Nabby switch. Who else should I target? Is Couture a big enough improvement on Franzen or Zett? How about Landeskog?
    H2H CONTRACT
    C - Larkin 1, MacKinnon 1, Hischier 2
    W- Pastranak 1, Kreider1, Benn 1, Schmaltz 1,Teravinen 2, Skinner1, T. Moore [color=red]2[/color
    D - Toews 2, DeAngelo 3, Faulk 2, Morrissey 1Spence 4, Marino 1, Mike Reilly 1
    G- Hill 1Jarry 3Vanecek 4
    MINORS- Slafkovsky, Wallstedt, Gauthier, O. Moore


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    GOALIE GAA/W/S

    Playing roster: 2C,3W,1F,4D,1G

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    IMO dealing Malkin to fill depth positions is short-sighted. Use the rest of your assets to improve your roster.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mormerod View Post
    (My team in sig)
    The offer I just received is Zetterberg, Franzen, and Keith for Malkin and Barberio
    Now, I'm sure Barberio is very negotiable anyway, but my roster is full, so to take those 3 players I would have to ditch 2 anyway. I'd be more likely to send out Palmieri and Khudobin. I obviuosly lack depth at all positions, so it certainly fills a need. But, is that even fair value for Malkin? He could easily finish 40 points up on Zetterberg, and Im not sure if Keith and Franzen make that up on my bottom guys. It does give me 3 guys with lots of +- and SOG. I'll probably counter but who should I target?

    His Team
    C-Tavares,Zetterberg(dual),Kesler,Couture,
    W-Franzen, Nash, Ovechkin(untouchable), Perry, Clarkson
    D- Burns, Harmonic, Keith,Weber, Gonchar,McQuade
    G-Lundqvist, Hiller
    Minor eligable-Rattie, Erixon,Strome, Landeskog, Holtby.

    I'd really like to change Zett out for Tavares, but I doubt he's buying that. I could probably shore up my back up G with a Hiller-Nabby switch. Who else should I target? Is Couture a big enough improvement on Franzen or Zett? How about Landeskog?
    That is gross underpayment for Malkin. Do not do it.

    As a starting point, I would need Tavares+. Think Tavares + Perry for Malkin + something small would be good for you.

    If they don't want to pay full price, put the same "untouchable" tag on Malkin that Ovechkin has.
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    No way I'd deal Malkin for that.

    I would do Lundqvist+Couture for Malkin+Nabokov.
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    Since I have Quick, and we only play one Goalie, I doubt I'd go after Lundqvist. It would be too much of a struggle to get him, when I'm OK at that position.
    H2H CONTRACT
    C - Larkin 1, MacKinnon 1, Hischier 2
    W- Pastranak 1, Kreider1, Benn 1, Schmaltz 1,Teravinen 2, Skinner1, T. Moore [color=red]2[/color
    D - Toews 2, DeAngelo 3, Faulk 2, Morrissey 1Spence 4, Marino 1, Mike Reilly 1
    G- Hill 1Jarry 3Vanecek 4
    MINORS- Slafkovsky, Wallstedt, Gauthier, O. Moore


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    Playing roster: 2C,3W,1F,4D,1G

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    Quote Originally Posted by mormerod View Post
    Since I have Quick, and we only play one Goalie, I doubt I'd go after Lundqvist. It would be too much of a struggle to get him, when I'm OK at that position.
    True, didn't realize you started only one tendy.

    I like arctic_rogue's idea of trying to get JT and Perry.
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    to get me to consider I would want to see at least one of these guys in a deal for Geno:


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    I was offered Ovie stright up, but said no. My counter offer was tavares, Perry, keith, Hiller for Malkin, Zidlicky,Palmieri, Nabby. The latter3 players would probably be the ones I dropped to make room if I was offered the 4 straight for Malkin anyway.
    H2H CONTRACT
    C - Larkin 1, MacKinnon 1, Hischier 2
    W- Pastranak 1, Kreider1, Benn 1, Schmaltz 1,Teravinen 2, Skinner1, T. Moore [color=red]2[/color
    D - Toews 2, DeAngelo 3, Faulk 2, Morrissey 1Spence 4, Marino 1, Mike Reilly 1
    G- Hill 1Jarry 3Vanecek 4
    MINORS- Slafkovsky, Wallstedt, Gauthier, O. Moore


    SKATER +-/G/A/SOG/blocks
    GOALIE GAA/W/S

    Playing roster: 2C,3W,1F,4D,1G

    * length of contract



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    Quote Originally Posted by mormerod View Post
    I was offered Ovie stright up, but said no. My counter offer was tavares, Perry, keith, Hiller for Malkin, Zidlicky,Palmieri, Nabby. The latter3 players would probably be the ones I dropped to make room if I was offered the 4 straight for Malkin anyway.
    I think your counter offer might be a bit excessive in the other direction. But if the other GM accepts (doubt they will), then good for you!
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    How about Tavares+Couture for Malkin+mediocre guy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    IMO dealing Malkin to fill depth positions is short-sighted. Use the rest of your assets to improve your roster.
    I don't want to hijack the thread here, but I also think this is an interesting concern pertaining to the OP. Should the OP even be considering trading Malkin and if so what should be the goals?

    In any trade if you can gain more than what you lose, or deal from a position of strength and fill a weakness without losing more than what you would gain isn't it worth it?

    Also, if a trade is considered equal from your perspective, i.e. in a typical week you think your stats wouldn't change in any category if you did the trade, would it be better to have those stats come from one elite producer or multiple players? Wouldn't it be less risky from multiple players?

    Idk, just some thoughts I had as I read eric's reply. Maybe someone could shed some light on this to determine if the OP should even be dealing Malkin in the first place.

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    Unless the word "for" is between trading and Malkin, I wouldn't advise to do it.
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    my latest counter:
    Malkin, Barberio, Khudobin, Palmieri
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    Tavares, Keith, Hiller, Couture
    H2H CONTRACT
    C - Larkin 1, MacKinnon 1, Hischier 2
    W- Pastranak 1, Kreider1, Benn 1, Schmaltz 1,Teravinen 2, Skinner1, T. Moore [color=red]2[/color
    D - Toews 2, DeAngelo 3, Faulk 2, Morrissey 1Spence 4, Marino 1, Mike Reilly 1
    G- Hill 1Jarry 3Vanecek 4
    MINORS- Slafkovsky, Wallstedt, Gauthier, O. Moore


    SKATER +-/G/A/SOG/blocks
    GOALIE GAA/W/S

    Playing roster: 2C,3W,1F,4D,1G

    * length of contract



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    I think that's a good counter.

    If it helps I flipped my Malkin and Pavlec for Ericsson, Couture, Halak, and Granlund
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    Quote Originally Posted by angus View Post
    Unless the word "for" is between trading and Malkin, I wouldn't advise to do it.
    Well and politely said Angus. My original thought was a little harsher - "You want to trade who for what??????? Have you lost your mind?" Is this some kind of move to reduce your contract values, because if that isn't a factor I just don't see how you are getting adequate value for such a stud when you have such a limited weekly starting roster.

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