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    Does anyone have a good argument to trade E. Karlsson now? Value doesn't get any higher...and if I were to look for a trade, how big of a return should I be looking for?
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    No....no I would not.

    High value is not a great reason to trade someone like him. Unless you can get a return so ridiculous you can't say no to it.
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    Karlsson is part of the elite, and should be treated as such. The only way I would consider a trade is if I would be getting elite level talent back.

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    Karlsson has huge value in 6D league formats.

    The only league where I'd sell high on Karlsson right now is multi-cat with Hits/BkS/PIM.
    In points-heavy leagues, I think Karlsson should be kept.

    His value is farther above waiver-wire defensemen than other ELITES relative to their waiver-wire positions.

    In other words, you have to get two fairly elite players back to trade EK away.

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    i thought the idea was to acquire the best players
     
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    Why not trade him? Anyone should be somewhat up for grabs. It depends on the league and the cats. If it's a goalie heavy league and you can get an elite goalie, go for it. If you can work him into a deal to get an elite forward, also go for it. Everyone should be movable if the offer is worth it, thats how you get better.
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    But saying that, you should honestly be looking at using him to buy one of the elite 3 c. If you can pkg J.T. with him and get one of the big 3 back with a lower value but still very serviceable D, then thats where your aim should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mormerod View Post
    Why not trade him? Anyone should be somewhat up for grabs. It depends on the league and the cats. If it's a goalie heavy league and you can get an elite goalie, go for it. If you can work him into a deal to get an elite forward, also go for it. Everyone should be movable if the offer is worth it, thats how you get better.

    +1. As for everyone saying not to trade him, keep in mind that they probably would have said the same about Mike Green two or three seasons back.


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    If you can trade him in a deal where

    a) you win the deal and
    b) it strengthens your team

    do it.

    If not, don't trade him. I don't see this guy pulling a Mike Green in any sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jman View Post
    If you can trade him in a deal where

    a) you win the deal and
    b) it strengthens your team

    do it.

    If not, don't trade him. I don't see this guy pulling a Mike Green in any sense.
    No one saw Mike Green pulling a Mike Green either.

    EDIT: ...except for Big Ev
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    because he is a defenseman it is virtually impossible to get back what he is worth

    its not just about getting elite back its about him being so far better than replacement value than other top players at other positions

    to the op how many keepers btw
     
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    This is something I've been wrestling with as well. Ever since I started reading these boards I've read the 'buy low, sell high' mantra too many times to count. Isn't Karlsson the ultimate sell high? He won the Norris as a 22 year old which, as far as I can tell, hasn't been done since Bobby Orr won his first one in 1968. He isn't leaning on superstars like Ovechkin and Backstrom to score his points, he's doing it all himself. The last defenseman to score 78+ points was Lidstrom (80 pts) in 05-06, although Green has come close twice since. He has played 217 games since his first season in 08-09, only missing 13 games due to injury, so he's durable. I am hard pressed to find a negative thing about him at this point. For his first two years the knock against him was a truly awful +/- (which is the only reason I was able to get him in the first place), but last year he was +16.

    The fact that there's nothing bad to say about him is both a good thing and a bad thing. It's a good thing for you, the owner, because you've got this great piece that everybody wants and they have almost no flaws to gravitate towards to make you doubt his value. It's a bad thing because of 'buy low, sell high.' Who wants to buy someone at the absolute height of the market, when the only way to go is down? It'd be much easier for the other GM to wait for Karlsson to stumble a bit so that he has a bit of leverage in talks.

    It's incredibly frustrating and I've decided to just hold onto him and enjoy his ridiculous numbers. Trying to get another owner to realize that packaging him with a 90 point forward to land Malkin or Crosby just isn't worth it is exhausting. Likewise, trying to convince another GM that Karlsson is worth more than an 80 point forward is equally tiring.
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    A week ago I traded Karlsson, Alfy, Prospal for Enstrom and Tavares

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    I don't think Karlsson will pull a Green, and I'm still unsure about it.. The boards suggested I make the trade though. So I went with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instant Karma View Post
    +1. As for everyone saying not to trade him, keep in mind that they probably would have said the same about Mike Green two or three seasons back.
    just because one guy practically fell off the face of the planet doesnt mean everyone that follows will
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzl View Post
    It's incredibly frustrating and I've decided to just hold onto him and enjoy his ridiculous numbers. Trying to get another owner to realize that packaging him with a 90 point forward to land Malkin or Crosby just isn't worth it is exhausting. Likewise, trying to convince another GM that Karlsson is worth more than an 80 point forward is equally tiring.
    which is why you shouldnt trade him you cant get proper value
     
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