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    Last night was Halloween night and here is my take on who was scary good, and who was horribly bad

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    Ryan Callaghan. The Rangers captain nearly scored the "trick" last night with two goals against the visiting Sharks. Callaghan had a great chance but the shot was blocked by San Jose defenseman Doug Murray. Callaghan had a three point night in total with two goals and an assist and four SOG

    Patrick Kane also had a three point night scoring two goals and an assist against Nashville and had three SOG. Kane kept Chicago in the game by either setting up a goal or scoring after the Preds scored to keep the Hawks close and allowing them to eventually win it in over time. Kane now has two three point nights this season.

    Kyle Wellwood opened the scoring for the Jets in the first period last night in Florida. Wellwood also had an assist on the tying goal with less than a minute to play in the third period. Then, in the shoot-out Wellwood scored on a beauty move to give the Jets the win.

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    New York Rangers announce on Halloween that Sean Avery was placed on re-entry waivers.

    Dustin Byfuglien and Andrew Ladd for attacking Jack Skille for what was a clean hit on Tobias Enstrom. I don't know about you but I am getting tired of players fighting after a clean but big hit. Skille exploded into Enstrom with a big shoulder to chest hit and sent Enstrom flying. It was a spectacular hit, and unfortunately Enstrom had to leave the game. Even though the hit was clean Dustin Byfuglien immediately challenged Skille to a fight. Then in the third period Andrew Ladd challenged, and fought, and beat up Skille.

    Joe Thornton said to media after the game that he felt San Jose should have won the game because "The Rangers were the softest team they played on the road trip" The road trip Thornton is referring to has the Sharks playing New Jersey, Boston, Nashville, Detroit, Islanders, and finally the Rangers. Of all those teams, only Nashville currently has more points than the Rangers. With last nights Ranger win over San Jose the Rangers are within one point of the Sharks. Get your facts straight before you call out a team Joe.
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    Always good stuff to read. Was hoping to see something about hossa or flash. Should have had the 3 point night guys as one stud lo
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    Kane and Hossa could have had 10 points each last night with all the scoring chances they created. It was a treat to watch.

    Good work Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Youngblood View Post
    Kane and Hossa could have had 10 points each last night with all the scoring chances they created. It was a treat to watch.

    Good work Pete
    Glad to hear it- I just pulled the plugs on teo sets of trade negotiations that involved me moving Hossa...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pharling View Post
    Dustin Byfuglien and Andrew Ladd for attacking Jack Skille for what was a clean hit on Tobias Enstrom. I don't know about you but I am getting tired of players fighting after a clean but big hit. Skille exploded into Enstrom with a big shoulder to chest hit and sent Enstrom flying. It was a spectacular hit, and unfortunately Enstrom had to leave the game. Even though the hit was clean Dustin Byfuglien immediately challenged Skille to a fight. Then in the third period Andrew Ladd challenged, and fought, and beat up Skille.
    I disagree. While the scrum and fight that immediately ensue a huge hit is sometimes annoying, there is no question it was going to happen with both Byfuglien AND Ladd out there on the ice. It's their job to protect their skill players and Enstrom is most certainly their most skilled. If you do away with player's ability to defend themselves and their teammates then you might as well re-write the whole rule book because more and more skilled players are going to get run and injured.

    No one wants to see players get injured but that's exactly what happened on the Skille hit. Clean or not the Jets cannot allow teams to think their skill players can be run without consequence. They are bad enough as it is and giving in to other teams physically would be like rolling over and dying. As an Oilers fan I know what this looks like and it is even worse than watching a scrum or fight ensue after a big hit.

    It's also worth noting that Byfuglien was penalized with two roughing minors for his actions on Skille, resulting in a power play for the Panthers. There is no doubt that the excitement of the NHL hinges on power plays and the momentum that they can generate for either side. So the end result of this was positive for fan enjoyment.

    Finally, I'm not sure what you could see wrong with the Ladd fight unless you don't like fighting in hockey at all or want to see it restricted to just the heavyweights. Frankly, I prefer fights that are fights of passion and outrage, rather than staged boxing matches that generally occur outside the scope of the game. This fight did not occur immediately after the hit and thus did not disrupt the flow of the game and yet was clearly an element of the game. Ladd was standing up for his teammate and Skille was standing up for himself. I say kudos to both for their bravery, because we know how dangerous fighting can be.

    If you don't like fighting at all that's one thing but if you do like fighting then questioning the Ladd fight doesn't really make sense. Guys fight for plenty of reasons. I think that injuring your team's most skilled guy is definitely a good one.
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