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How would Joe Morrow rank compared to this draft's d-men in points only pools?

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How will the top two lines in Edmonton look like next season??

How many wins does Lindback get next year in Tampa??

Whats for supper tonight GL??
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Out of all the D drafted in first round, who could make the jump?

Also, how does Ribeiro's arrival in Was impact Johansson? Bigger numbers?

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I'm not a huge prospects guy, but I think in Pitts everyone will kind of have an elevated point total but only if they get a chance to play, but that's the key will they get a chance to play...

Morrow has shown a lot of skill from a junior level, but so has many others which floundered in the NHL...

This year's D draft class is deep and talented so I don't think Morrow will be the top of the pile.

Murray is essentially a lock to play in Columbus this year. Reinhart isn't majorly offensive, Reilly I've heard differing opinions on. Some say he could end up top of the class, while some say he has bust written all over him... so depends on who you believe, Lindholm was a surprise pick, and not a lot of people know a lot about him, so can't really call anything on that. Dumba's probably the closest one that I'd compare Morrow to at least statwise... Pouliot will compete with Morrow for ice-time down the track, so whoever wins out could have a better career. Morrow is more offensive while Pouliot is more two-way. Morrow will have the edge in points though... Trouba is more two-way again same with Koekkoek...

Keep in mind too that D points have a lot to do with the quality of forwards a team has as well. You look at LA, Doughty go can anywhere from a 50+ point D to a 35 point D playing on the same team... D points are almost near impossible to predict.
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How will the top two lines in Edmonton look like next season??

How many wins does Lindback get next year in Tampa??

Whats for supper tonight GL??
I don't know how they will look like, but if I were in the head coaching position, I'd probably play the crap outta the kids and really take a big step forward this season...

Hall - RNH - Yakupov
Hemsky - Horcoff - Eberle

With that said, the Oilers do have a lot of cap space, so I'd probably throw the kitchen sink at Semin and see if he'll sign. They Oilers could have 3 potent scoring lines if they get Semin, Gagner and Smyth signed...

Lindback is a tough one... I think if it ends up 50/50 he'll probably get 18-20 wins... If he manages to outplay Garon for the number 1 gig and garner 60 starts, he'll get 26-30... TB has a lot of work to do on the blue-line to help out their goalies...

Dunno yet I still have 8 hours before supper... so lots of time to decide...
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Hey Ryan, thanks for doing this, it is much appreciated.

What are your thoughts on Columbus getting Bobrovsky? Does he become their de-facto number 1 or is Mason still going to get a shot?

What kind of year do you think Bobrovsky is in for? Wins will be tough to come by I would think, especially if Nash is traded. I had Miller, Vokoun, Bobrovsky and Elliott in a standard 12 team H2H 6x4 league. With Vokoun as a backup, I'm now thinking of keeping Bobrovsky as well. We do a 3C, 3L, 3R, 4D, 2G + 5 bench and we have 13 keepers. Is he worth keeping in your opinion?
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Thanks. League in my sig - I traded Leddy, Gragnani, Connauton and my 2013 entry pick (likely to be 22-24 overall) for other guy's 2012 entry pick (3rd overall) and his 2013 entry pick (his team will likely improve next year so it will likely be 8-12 overall).

In our system whoever gets taken at the pick is who you get, so I got Galchenyuk.

Leaving aside positional requirements (i.e. I'm confident I'll be able to replace my D), how'd I do?
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Also, how does Ribeiro's arrival in Was impact Johansson? Bigger numbers?

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Once again I'm not a huge prospects guy, if you want a much more informed decision shoot Brendan Ross a PM or e-mail over at DobberProspects and he'll give you a much better answer than me.

If you want my 2 cents.

I can easily see Murray going. Seems like a match made in heaven. Jackets need D help and Murray is NHL ready.

The Wild have glaring holes on the blue-line, so Dumba I could see making the team if he's ready...

Those would probably be the only 2 that I see.

I have a projections article coming out fairly soon that will pretty much break everything down...

Generally speaking more competition negatively affects a player's point production. So Riberio coming to town should negatively affect the Johansson's point production.

With that said, for that last 4 years the Caps as a team has put up, 717, 836, 589 and 582 points as a team respectively... as you can see the last 2 years where they reverted to the "defensive" game plan, the numbers have plummeted... so if they hire an offensive minded coach and get back into the 700s everyone on the team is naturally going to see an increase in point totals...

Another big factor is whether Semin stays or goes... If Semin stays, he eats up 10% (roughly) of the Caps scoring pie leaving less for Johansson especially if Ribeiro comes in and takes up another 10% of the overall pie as well. If Semin leaves well that leaves more room for Ribeiro and Johansson to claim a few more points.

A third factor for me is ice-time distribution... Last year with Backstrom hurt, the ice-time was relatively evenly distributed... Ovechkin (19:48), Backstrom (19:09), Laich (18:29), Brouwer (17:10), Johansson (16:48), Semin (16:47)... So if you assume that Ribeiro will take over that 2nd line C role, he'll eat up more than Semin's 16:47, and that time has to come from somewhere right? so if you cut it out from Brouwer and Johansson, that leaves Johansson even less ice-time... There's only so much you can expect from a player that only garners 16 mins a game.

So for me if the Caps stay status quo and Semin leaves: Johansson = 45 points. Semin stays: Johansson = 35-40 points.

If Caps get back to offense and Semin leaves: Johansson = 60 points. Semin stays: Johansson = 50 points.
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Once again I'm not a huge prospects guy, if you want a much more informed decision shoot Brendan Ross a PM or e-mail over at DobberProspects and he'll give you a much better answer than me.

If you want my 2 cents.

I can easily see Murray going. Seems like a match made in heaven. Jackets need D help and Murray is NHL ready.

The Wild have glaring holes on the blue-line, so Dumba I could see making the team if he's ready...

Those would probably be the only 2 that I see.

I have a projections article coming out fairly soon that will pretty much break everything down...

Generally speaking more competition negatively affects a player's point production. So Riberio coming to town should negatively affect the Johansson's point production.

With that said, for that last 4 years the Caps as a team has put up, 717, 836, 589 and 582 points as a team respectively... as you can see the last 2 years where they reverted to the "defensive" game plan, the numbers have plummeted... so if they hire an offensive minded coach and get back into the 700s everyone on the team is naturally going to see an increase in point totals...

Another big factor is whether Semin stays or goes... If Semin stays, he eats up 10% (roughly) of the Caps scoring pie leaving less for Johansson especially if Ribeiro comes in and takes up another 10% of the overall pie as well. If Semin leaves well that leaves more room for Ribeiro and Johansson to claim a few more points.

A third factor for me is ice-time distribution... Last year with Backstrom hurt, the ice-time was relatively evenly distributed... Ovechkin (19:48), Backstrom (19:09), Laich (18:29), Brouwer (17:10), Johansson (16:48), Semin (16:47)... So if you assume that Ribeiro will take over that 2nd line C role, he'll eat up more than Semin's 16:47, and that time has to come from somewhere right? so if you cut it out from Brouwer and Johansson, that leaves Johansson even less ice-time... There's only so much you can expect from a player that only garners 16 mins a game.

So for me if the Caps stay status quo and Semin leaves: Johansson = 45 points. Semin stays: Johansson = 35-40 points.

If Caps get back to offense and Semin leaves: Johansson = 60 points. Semin stays: Johansson = 50 points.
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