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    Alright boys, I'd like your opinion on something, because I'm sure you'll tell me if I'm thinking with my heart too much. In a league that counts PIMS and Hits at 1/10 (together) the value of points, would you trade Eric Staal straight up for Spezza? Spezza may have the higher upside, but he always gets hurt. Staal is pretty much as dependable as they come in terms of playing nearly every game.

    I think it's close and I'd likely do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles View Post
    Alright boys, I'd like your opinion on something, because I'm sure you'll tell me if I'm thinking with my heart too much. In a league that counts PIMS and Hits at 1/10 (together) the value of points, would you trade Eric Staal straight up for Spezza? Spezza may have the higher upside, but he always gets hurt. Staal is pretty much as dependable as they come in terms of playing nearly every game.

    I think it's close and I'd likely do it.

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    I'd keep Staal there. Spezz's injury-filled past has to be a consideration, and Staal looked pretty darn good on the new-look Canes last season. I'm not sure Spezz's upside is that much higher than Staal's either (the guy did put together that one massive season and has been over PPG before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles View Post
    Alright boys, I'd like your opinion on something, because I'm sure you'll tell me if I'm thinking with my heart too much. In a league that counts PIMS and Hits at 1/10 (together) the value of points, would you trade Eric Staal straight up for Spezza? Spezza may have the higher upside, but he always gets hurt. Staal is pretty much as dependable as they come in terms of playing nearly every game.

    I think it's close and I'd likely do it.

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    I would keep Staal. Spezza has the skill to outpoint Staal on a regular basis, but also has the band-aid label. If Spezza had his greatest, healthiest season and all things came together for him, the best he could give you is probably 15 points more than Staal. I say take the chance that this won't happen for Spezza and keep the more consistant, albeit streaky player in Staal.

    It is no fun having one of your top-point getters in fantasy hockey being injured.

    Gimme Staal here.

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    Thanks gents. I doubt a Spezza deal will get done without Staal, so it will be T.S. for me.
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    been seeing a lot of prospect rankings on other boards so I thought I would do my own for kicks. They have graduated Lehner, Zibanejad, Wiercioch, Pageau, lost Noesen and Silfverberg, yet sill have a deep pool and still up there at the top 5 or 10 with other organizations IMHO.

    1. RW - Curtis Lazar - excellent skater, goal scorer, great shot, solid frame, leadership and character, plays under pressure, all-around package, close to pro ready (could see some games this year but most likely not). Really excited about him and he might just have a spot with Kyle Turris next year.

    2. LW - Matt Puempel - pure sniper, has really improved his skating, solid character, solid frame, close to pro ready (1 year in AHL IMO, maybe a callup for injuries). Close to being the top prospect for me, love his goal scoring potential. Top line potential.

    3. LW - Mike Hoffman - lightning quick skater, NHL shot, good offensive instincts, NHL ready, will battle for a spot. Has really progressed since his first year in Bingo.

    4. D - Cody Ceci - up and down year coming from garbage 67's team, but was much better in Owen Sound and played well in Binghamton. Good skater for his size, a little soft in his own end, but should be a good #4 on the Sens. Will benefit tremendously from Luke Richardson in Binghamton.

    5. RW - Mark Stone - you know the team has a great pool when a guy with NHL playoff experience is 5tht. Stone had a very solid rookie year in Binghamton but suffered a high ankle sprain against Pittsburgh. Will never be a great skater but makes up for it with his brain and his hands. Close to NHL ready, will battle for a spot if healthy.

    6. LW - Shane Prince - another favourite of mine, Shane is just a great offensive player. Loved him since his 67'a days. Another lightning quick skater, great playmaker but also has a nose for the net. Extremely hard worker, another character guy (there's a theme here), solid 18 goals in his rookie AHL season. Another guy who is close to seeing some NHL action. Was one of if not the best non-NHL players at prospect camp.

    7. D - Fredrik Claesson - Plays aggressively, solid defensively, hard worker, and a hilarious guy on and off the ice. Teammates love him. Close to the next guy on the list coming up, but I like his puck skills better.

    8. D - Mark Borowiecki - MORE CHARACTER. Binghamton's captain, a mean mother****er on the ice, gym rat, I thought he would be in the NHL two seasons ago but there was just no room. He'll be there in 2014-2015. Great defensively but not much upside at all offensively.

    9. D - Mikael Wikstrand - huge year for Wikstrand. 11 goals in Sweden's second league, was one of Sweden's top D at the WJC, QB'd their PP. Overall solid two-way D with some nice offensive skill.

    10. C - Ryan Dzingel - a guy who is really under the radar. 7th rounder in 2011 out of the USHL, has progressed really well at Ohio State (38 points in 40 games last year). Good size, great skill level, and the organization is high on him.

    Andre Petersson and Stephane Da Costa would have made the list if they worked hard and played well defensively, or always hurt in AP's case. Both will probably have careers in Europe. Pains me not to rank Andre in the Top 10 as I think he is one of the most skilled players in the organization.

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    I only watched about a half dozen Oil Kings games last year, and I'm no scout obviously, but I'm not sure Lazar is anywhere close to the NHL yet. Lots of tools, and could develop nicely, but he'll be a while yet before cracking the NHL, and could easily end up as a third line forward in the end.

    Expectations low with him, but who knows, maybe he'll put every single thing together and become a second line guy.

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    IMO he'll be a second line guy with his speed and goal scoring ability. If he wasn't a great skater I would not make that claim. Tim Murray, who is as honest as they come, no BS, thinks he can score 30 one day. Scored 38 goals last year while playing a secondary role, and while starting the year cold for a long stretch.

    He was better than most guys at prospect camp, and was close to Conacher/Pageau/Zibanejad so that's why I think he's closer to the NHL than some think. That being said he will have a much more prominent role in Edmonton next year and I think he'll play in 2014-2015.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doulos View Post
    I only watched about a half dozen Oil Kings games last year, and I'm no scout obviously, but I'm not sure Lazar is anywhere close to the NHL yet. Lots of tools, and could develop nicely, but he'll be a while yet before cracking the NHL, and could easily end up as a third line forward in the end.

    Expectations low with him, but who knows, maybe he'll put every single thing together and become a second line guy.
    also do you know if Oil Kings games are streamed anywhere (besides the WHL pay-per-view)?

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    I have no idea if there is a consistent stream anywhere (aside from the WHL site of course). I generally was just able to dig one up by poking around, and not every time when I wanted to find one.

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    Solid post Big Ev.

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    RFA Stephane Da Costa has just re-signed with Ottawa. This leaves only Jared Cowen as the Sens only RFA.

    Good for Da Costa. I'm thinking he sees some NHL action this season, but I think it comes after Ottawa tries to sneak him back to Bingo (AHL) in September through waivers. I think another club snaps him up.

    Still so much depth amongst the Sens forwards. Can't believe that one of Pageau and Stone will most likely start the year in the AHL. Crazy.

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    Man I hate Tr***s Y***.

    Didnt want anyone to Google his name and get him hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notch4077 View Post
    Man I hate Tr***s Y***.

    Didnt want anyone to Google his name and get him hits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notch4077 View Post
    Man I hate Tr***s Y***.

    Didnt want anyone to Google his name and get him hits.
    he does seem to be stirring the nest over at Hockey Buzz lately, i was a fan but recently hes getting obnoxious
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyProphet View Post
    Not your go-to-guy? Ha.
    Nope.

    Quote Originally Posted by finnys_fanatsy View Post
    he does seem to be stirring the nest over at Hockey Buzz lately, i was a fan but recently hes getting obnoxious
    I've been trying to unfollow anyone that RT's him on Twitter but I just can't get him out of my timeline on there. Ugh.

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