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    22 team deep keeper league.

    Points only. Roster below. Keep in mind the top half of the teams have much of the talent and the bottom teams are very much rebuilding at this point. Which is why you will see Im not competitive now.

    Im in year 1 of rebuilding with building blocks suck as Tippett, Tolvanen, Dylan Strome, Adam fox, Sebastian Aho etc. I figure Im another 2 years away from having something competitive. I?ll be adding another 2 or 3 early first round picks this year and next year at he entry draft. (Lottery picks)

    Tolvanen is hyped as a high ceiling player who will make the jump next year. I can get Max Domi for him who I like very much but is having a miserable year with the rest of the coyotes. Hes also a few years older but Im trying not to sweat a 22 year old as an old player - although he would be my oldest keeper at this point.

    Am I selling high on Tolvanen hype, mitigating risk and buying low on a solid point getting player in domi? It feels like it but I was very excited for Tolvanen to be a draft steal!

    Your help is always appreciated. Move Tolvanen for domi in a complete rebuild?

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    Hischier
    Strome
    Aho
    Mascherin
    Tippett
    Tolvanen
    Fasching
    Tyler benson
    Beau Bennett
    Leipsic
    Boucher
    Pirri


    Kylington
    Chabot
    Adam fox
    Sanheim
    Honka
    Roy (sj prospect)
    Guataffson

    Parsons
    Samsonov

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    A 22-team deep keeper league and you don't have any keepers over 21? Are you sure your rebuild won't take substantially longer?

    I'd want to see your actual team, and keepers, before commenting on this specific trade.

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    If you're targeting 2020, then I like Tolvanen much more than Domi in points-only.

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    Roster added above to original post. Thanks for the recommendation.

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    I'd hang onto Tolvanen. From the looks of your team you need to swing for the fences. I'd be looking to cling hard to your highest upside guys.
    9 Team Dynasty Salary Cap (AAV)
    G 1.5, A 1, PPP 1, SHP 1, +/- 0.5, MmP 0.25/Min, HIT 0.1, GWG 3, BLK 0.25 Gordie Howe Hattricks 10 (Skaters)
    W, L, GA, SHO, SV (Goal)
    Start 12 F 6 D 2 G
    11 Player Bench (Max 2 Bench G)
    15 Player Farm Team

    F: Kucherov, Teravainen, Galchenyuk, Johansen, W Nylander, W Karlsson, Gourde, Vrana, Athanasiou, Vatrano, Buchnevich, Haula, Stastny, Puljujarvi, Eberle, Little, Kovalchuk, Kravtsov, Terry, Bertuzzi, Bratt, Kunin, Hintz, Heinen, Kahun, Sikura, Chytil, Iafallo
    D: E Karlsson, Montour, Gardiner, Girard, Faulk, Martinez, Fox, Cernak, Weegar, Pionk, Pilut, Bayreuther
    G: Gibson, Bishop, Raanta, Allen, Talbot, Blackwood, Delia, Husso

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    I'd keep Tolvanen now that I see your roster. And in a 22 team league, I can't see how you will be competitive in 2 years.

    TANK and PRAY.

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    i hope its not a money league? at some stage you are gonna have to stop going after prospects and draft picks, i like ur thinking with domi, how many starters have you got at this moment like 5 or 6 , you need trading high on ur prospects and getting some starters imo, last thing you said " boucher" is that Reid Boucher?
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    Grigori Denisenko.

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    provorov, ekblad, Dumba, Chabot, Schmidt , orlov, Skjei

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    Default Re: Domi / Tolvanen

    Domi isn’t playing well and you’re a couple seasons from being competitive. I’d stay with Tolvanen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaga86 View Post
    22 team deep keeper league.

    Points only. Roster below. Keep in mind the top half of the teams have much of the talent and the bottom teams are very much rebuilding at this point. Which is why you will see Im not competitive now.

    Im in year 1 of rebuilding with building blocks suck as Tippett, Tolvanen, Dylan Strome, Adam fox, Sebastian Aho etc. I figure Im another 2 years away from having something competitive. I?ll be adding another 2 or 3 early first round picks this year and next year at he entry draft. (Lottery picks)

    Tolvanen is hyped as a high ceiling player who will make the jump next year. I can get Max Domi for him who I like very much but is having a miserable year with the rest of the coyotes. Hes also a few years older but Im trying not to sweat a 22 year old as an old player - although he would be my oldest keeper at this point.

    Am I selling high on Tolvanen hype, mitigating risk and buying low on a solid point getting player in domi? It feels like it but I was very excited for Tolvanen to be a draft steal!

    Your help is always appreciated. Move Tolvanen for domi in a complete rebuild?

    Dubois
    Suzuki
    Cagguila
    Dickinson
    Hischier
    Strome
    Aho
    Mascherin
    Tippett
    Tolvanen
    Fasching
    Tyler benson
    Beau Bennett
    Leipsic
    Boucher
    Pirri


    Kylington
    Chabot
    Adam fox
    Sanheim
    Honka
    Roy (sj prospect)
    Guataffson

    Parsons
    Samsonov
    Whoa... your team is pretty bad. I'd keep Tolvanen, tank and PRAY.
    12 team, keep 7.
    Goals 3pts, Assists 2pts. SOG, Hits, Blocks, 0.5pts. GWG/PPG 1pt, FW 0.2pts, FL -0.1pts. Forward/Defense
    Goalie Start 1pt, wins 4pts, Losses -1pts, Goals against -1pts, Saves 0.2pts, Shutouts 2pts. Goalie

    Centre: Mcdavid, Scheifele
    Left Wing: Ovechkin, Skinner
    Right Wing: Wheeler, Laine
    Defense: Byfuglien, Myers, Heiskanen
    Bench: Skinner, Pettersson, Svechnikov,
    Goalie: Hutton, Hellebuyck

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    Yeah it?s bad. I have a lot of 1st round picks coming over the next 3 Years. Wanted to rebuild from the dirt and studs just for fun (Mission accomplished)

    Good thing I love the juniors.

    Appreciate the input and thanks for the insight on the roster

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    No way I pull the trigger on that deal.
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    LW Domi Aho Ritchie Vrana
    RW Tarasenko J Williams Laine Sheary
    D Klefbom M Rielly Spurgeon Provorov Ellis Dahlin
    R White Kase Schmaltz Thomas Anston-Reese Lindell Theodore

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    R Kuemper

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    I'm with the majority - keep Tolvanen, tank and pray. I can't see you being competitive for at least 3 years, maybe longer if your goalie situation doesn't pan out.
    WHL - 24tm multicast salary partial keeper
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    Skaters: G/ A/ +/- /PIM/SOG/PPP/Hit/Blk/FOW-C
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pit Bulls View Post
    I'm with the majority - keep Tolvanen, tank and pray. I can't see you being competitive for at least 3 years, maybe longer if your goalie situation doesn't pan out.
    This team will be struggling for atleast the next 5 years. You need all your prospects to pan out if you achieve what you project
    20 Team Full Keeper (32 man Roster) Points only
    Start 12F 6D 1G

    F- Skinner, Nyquist, Koivu, Carter,TJohnson, Kopitar, Tarasenko, Okposo, Williams, Kessel, Voracek, Wheeler, Galchenyuk, Lee

    D-Vatanen, Bogosian, J Schultz, MacDonald, Demers, Muzzin, Stone, Edler

    G- Halak, C.Anderson, Mason

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    Vito? While your probably correct, I hope we can shave a year off that projection

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    Default Re: Domi / Tolvanen

    What about a deal like this?

    My:
    Sebastian Aho (Carolina)
    Late entry draft pick (20th) 2018

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    Max Domi
    Sam reinhart

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