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    For second team in sig: it really comes down to what you think Provorov will turn into. I think this might be a good time to get OEL, but am I giving away a future OEL? Also this trade comes with me giving a slight 2nd round upgrade (5 spots or so). Thoughts?
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    keep Provorov. Period. End of Story. He will become what you want him to become.
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    Yeah Keep Provorov. Younger and putting up same stats.
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    I would maybe consider it without the pick upgrade... but with the pick upgrade you are best to keep Provorov.

    But I am a flyers fan and tend to under-value them when it comes to fantasy hockey.

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    Thanks guys! I'll turn it down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Svbetts View Post
    For second team in sig: it really comes down to what you think Provorov will turn into. I think this might be a good time to get OEL, but am I giving away a future OEL? Also this trade comes with me giving a slight 2nd round upgrade (5 spots or so). Thoughts?
    Provorov will turn into a solid #1 defenseman who puts up good peripherals, and has a very good offensive game when given the chance to show it. He develops into this sometime around early 2017.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    Provorov will turn into a solid #1 defenseman who puts up good peripherals, and has a very good offensive game when given the chance to show it. He develops into this sometime around early 2017.
    Regarding the "early 2017" part --

    I assume that was a typo, but just curious what time frame you intended to type?

    (I'm not trying to be an ass, I swear. Just curious about your thoughts/expectations for Provorov going forward given your Philly area roots.)
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    Call me crazy, but I'd keep OEL. Chances are he gets moved in the near future which will really upgrade his value. If not, Arizona should improve next season and his point totals should as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntMan12 View Post
    Call me crazy, but I'd keep OEL. Chances are he gets moved in the near future which will really upgrade his value. If not, Arizona should improve next season and his point totals should as well.
    I don't think you're crazy, which is why I put it up for debate. I could see either side making sense.
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    12 Team Keep 10 (& 5 Minors)
    : G/A/OTL:1 W:2 SO:3
    '24 Picks (16 Rounds) - 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,3,3,5,5,6,6
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    D - Bouchard, Dobson
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejeanneret View Post
    Regarding the "early 2017" part --

    I assume that was a typo, but just curious what time frame you intended to type?

    (I'm not trying to be an ass, I swear. Just curious about your thoughts/expectations for Provorov going forward given your Philly area roots.)
    I think there's no typo and it's just a tongue-in-cheek comment. Provorov already logs 25 mins a game for Philly and has looked like a pro since day one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtstr View Post
    I think there's no typo and it's just a tongue-in-cheek comment. Provorov already logs 25 mins a game for Philly and has looked like a pro since day one.
    Aha ... that's another way to look at for sure that totally passed me by! I thought maybe he was pegging the time frame when he thought Provorov might kick into yet another gear offensively, but maybe not. LOL!
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    Funny thing is this thread gave me the idea of offering my Provorov for OEL in my pts keeper league which was quickly turned down. No counter either! bah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntMan12 View Post
    Funny thing is this thread gave me the idea of offering my Provorov for OEL in my pts keeper league which was quickly turned down. No counter either! bah!
    I think the biggest difference in their value comes from the situations their teams are in. They both carry their respective blue lines, and each have another offensive dman on the team to split some of the workload with. I think until the end of next season, Provorov will be the better own, but after that it really depends on where OEL is playing. OEL playing even in Philly would be the better own, so I suppose it really depends on your window, and whether you have any faith that OEL would re-sign in Arizona.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejeanneret View Post
    Regarding the "early 2017" part --

    I assume that was a typo, but just curious what time frame you intended to type?

    (I'm not trying to be an ass, I swear. Just curious about your thoughts/expectations for Provorov going forward given your Philly area roots.)
    That was 100% intentional. He is that right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejeanneret View Post
    Aha ... that's another way to look at for sure that totally passed me by! I thought maybe he was pegging the time frame when he thought Provorov might kick into yet another gear offensively, but maybe not. LOL!
    Yeah, I was being a bit too cute. He's a #1D right now, who I think projects as a potential multiple Norris Trophy winner. He could be a good #1 PP defenseman, but Gostisbehere is elite at that.
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