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Thread: TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

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    Cool TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

    I was offered Talbot and Eichel for my Vasilevskiy..

    14 team roto league with 5 keepers.

    Catagories Counted: G - A - plusminus - pim - ppp - sog - hits | W - GAA - SV% (7 Off - 3 GOA)

    Keepers Before: Tavares, Panarin, Ghost, Price and Vas

    Keepers After: Tavares, Eichel, Ghost, Price and Talbot

    Does this sound like a good trade? Talbot is ranked high on keeper goalie rankings, and Eichel's keeper value is obvious.. its just tough giving up one of the best goalies on the leagues best teams.

    Thanks for the help!

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    Default POLL: TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

    14 team roto league with 5 keepers.

    Catagories Counted: G - A - plusminus - pim - ppp - sog - hits | W - GAA - SV% (7 Off - 3 GOA)

    Keepers Before: Tavares, Panarin, Ghost, Price and Vas

    Keepers After: Tavares, Eichel, Ghost, Price and Talbot

    Does this sound like a good trade? Talbot is ranked high on keeper goalie rankings, and Eichel's keeper value is obvious.. its just tough giving up one of the best goalies on the leagues best teams.

    Thanks for the help!

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    Default Re: POLL: TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

    Do you have any other goalies? I'd be more comfortable with it knowing you had a decent 3rd goalie as well.

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    Default Re: TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

    I would keep vas and the original keepers. The downgrade to talbot from vas and the upgrade from pan to eichel doesn't justify this trade to me at all. Give me vas and panarin
    12 team h2h keeper league. No salary
    Keep 35 before prospect draft carry max 45 through season

    Multicat scoring: assists-2pts goals-3pts shootoutgoals-2pts
    Gordiehowe-5pts hits-0.25pts pims-0.5pts plus/minus-1pt
    Powerplaypoint-1pt shorthandedpoint-2pts

    Goalie cats: ga- (-1pt) sv-0.2pts shutout-3pts wins-5pts

    Forwards: stamkos, benn, Marchand, kucherov, panarin, mackinnon, Crosby, Wheeler, Mantha, perron, marchessault, skinner,

    Defencemen: Hedman, Krug, Pietrangelo, shatty, ekblad, ekholm

    Goalies: Andersen, hellboy, Demko, Wolf (weekly starts)

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    Default Re: POLL: TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

    Nope no other goalies unfortunately, options to stream at this moment would be like - > T. Jarry, Subban, Reimer, Halak/ Griess, Lehner

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    Default Re: TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

    I was thinking of moving Panarin for depth, or for a draft pick in the offseason.. With that in mind is your opinion still the same?

    Thanks for the time!

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    Default Re: POLL: TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

    Keep pan and vas. The upgrade to eichel and downgrade to talbot isn't worth it to me. I'm pretty high on vas. Goalies like him are hard to get in any keeper league
    12 team h2h keeper league. No salary
    Keep 35 before prospect draft carry max 45 through season

    Multicat scoring: assists-2pts goals-3pts shootoutgoals-2pts
    Gordiehowe-5pts hits-0.25pts pims-0.5pts plus/minus-1pt
    Powerplaypoint-1pt shorthandedpoint-2pts

    Goalie cats: ga- (-1pt) sv-0.2pts shutout-3pts wins-5pts

    Forwards: stamkos, benn, Marchand, kucherov, panarin, mackinnon, Crosby, Wheeler, Mantha, perron, marchessault, skinner,

    Defencemen: Hedman, Krug, Pietrangelo, shatty, ekblad, ekholm

    Goalies: Andersen, hellboy, Demko, Wolf (weekly starts)

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    Default Re: TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

    Yeah unfortunately, I'd still keep vas and pan. Maybe flip him pan and something for eichel. Vas is a hard piece to give up as he will be the goalie guys ride to championships for years to come in my opinion. Did you or the other gm open this trade
    12 team h2h keeper league. No salary
    Keep 35 before prospect draft carry max 45 through season

    Multicat scoring: assists-2pts goals-3pts shootoutgoals-2pts
    Gordiehowe-5pts hits-0.25pts pims-0.5pts plus/minus-1pt
    Powerplaypoint-1pt shorthandedpoint-2pts

    Goalie cats: ga- (-1pt) sv-0.2pts shutout-3pts wins-5pts

    Forwards: stamkos, benn, Marchand, kucherov, panarin, mackinnon, Crosby, Wheeler, Mantha, perron, marchessault, skinner,

    Defencemen: Hedman, Krug, Pietrangelo, shatty, ekblad, ekholm

    Goalies: Andersen, hellboy, Demko, Wolf (weekly starts)

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    Default Re: TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

    i would try to see if he bites at same trade with price and not vasil...i think price is probably a better goalie still but in much worst situation. As much as i like Eichel, in your set up i would not move Vasil for anything atm.

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    Default Re: TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

    I will try this, Thanks for the opinion

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    The other GM opened the trade.. I like your point on Vas tho I will very likely just hold him.. Thanks again buddy

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    Thank you!

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    Default Re: POLL: TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

    I like the Eichel side. at 7 skater/ 3 goalie categories I'd be looking to improve there.

    Vas is having an unbelievable season and Talbot has been a tire fire but I think longterm they could be closer than then they are this season. The upgrade of Eichel to Panarin is big IMO and being able to add a draft pick for Panarin is good as well. In a keep 5 with 7/3 splits keeping 2 goalies seems like a lot but I suspect 14 teams makes them more valuable. All in all this seems like a solid buy-low/sell-high

    I'd make the deal.
    12 team H-2-H 1 year league, daily roster changes, 3 goalie start minimum/week
    2xC, 2xRW, 2xLW, 4xD, 3xUtil, 2xG, 5 Bench
    G, A, P, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, W, SV%, GAA, SVs
    C: C. Keller, C. Mittelstadt, B. Nelson, R. Strome,
    LW: K. Connor, B. Tkachuk, J. Gaudreau, J. Marchessault, E. Rodrigues, A. Lafreniere
    RW: K. Fiala, J. Bratt, T. Jeannot V. Arvidsson
    D: R. Josi, J. Trouba, E. Gustafsson,
    G: L. Thompson, F. Gustavsson, V. Vanecek
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    Default Re: TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

    I think the Eichel side is an easy decision. Take a look at the top three goalies over the last five years. Goalies that are in the top three are unlikely to be a top three goalie the next year. The position is extremely fickle and difficult to predict. Talbot was the best goalie in my league last year for example.

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    Default Re: TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

    I wouldn't do this because it gives you no reliable goalie keeper. In a 14 team league, I want to keep a guy I think can be a reliable top 8-ish (1 + N teams/2) goalie going forward. That isn't Talbot. He should get a bunch of starts, but I'm not confident of his peripherals.

    If you intend to then flip Talbot for another skater, and keep no goalie, that's better as long as you can find a goalie in the draft or offseason.

    Note that this doesn't mean I know how much your league hoards goalies, so you may need to keep a goalie.
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    Default Re: TRADE HELP: Vas for Talbot & Eichel

    I like the Eichel/Talbot side.

    If I can get Eichel -- particularly in a SOGs league -- I'm generally doing it. Price/Talbot remains a pretty sick goalie combination capable of turning it around and catching fire at any time.

    Just my two cents. Good luck.
    14 Team H2H Dynasty League (14 keepers, no farm)
    Weekly Starts (3C, 5W, 5D, 1Util, 2G)
    G, A, PPP, SOG, BS, +/-, GAA, W+OTL, SV%


    C: MacKinnon/Eichel/Kopitar//Pinto/Wright
    W: Ovechkin/Toffoli/Necas/Giroux/E.Kane/K.Johnson(IR)/Schmaltz/Bjorkstrand/Drouin
    D: Dobson/Trouba(IR)/Mintyukov/Gostisbehere/Martinez/Edvinsson/York/Gudas(IR)/Tanev
    G: Saros/Demko(IR)/Askarov/DeSmith

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