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    Hey guys.

    2nd league in sig....

    I am currently in 2nd. I have 3 top notch goalies and am wondering if it's time to move one.

    I have currently been offered Oshie for Schneider.

    I have a tough time as I value starting goalies high. But am I valuing them too high?

    Is this fair value for Schneider?
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    How many teams in this league? That could factor if you need 3 goalies or not also how many do you play nightly??

    Those are questions that will help you value goalies in your league. With that I still wouldn't do this deal. I know oshie adds cross value stats for a forward but I'd want more. The devils are playing well so why move a great goalie for an average player
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    It's a 12 team league. We start two nightly.

    I have pretty much ruled the goalie stats all year.

    I see the same thing as you about Oshie. I am looking for a #1 in return for the goalie.

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    you could easily make the argument Schneider has been your best G this year to date. I'd want more than a winger that has only hit 60pts once, 4 years ago. you also have to make sure that the return you are getting fills a void for your line up, goal scoring, assists, ppp. elite Dman etc. No need to rush, if you're dominating G - Stats, don't get pushed off that mountain easily.
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    Ya. He approached me with an original offer of Andersen for Oshie.....I said no to that and he asked about Schneider

    What do you think I should be looking for, he's got young guys like Pastrnak, Huberdeau, Marner and Eichel but I cant see him wanting to move any of them....or if they'd be enough for a #1 goalie. He also has O'Reilly (extra value in this league for FOW)

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    I'd want more than just Oshie for Schneider (or Andersen too for that matter). Ask for the players you want and if he doesn't like it or says no then it's on him. You don't have to do anything here.
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    I'm a believer in keeping three starting goalies, if you can, once the league size reaches 12+. If one of those goalies gets injured, you're still left with two studs (plus, you could pick up the injured guy's backup for spot starts), so you shouldn't miss a beat. If you only have two strong starters and one gets hurt, then things can start to get a little bit dicey for you.

    If you're in second out of twelve, then you've got a lot working in your favour, and it sounds like your goaltending is a large part of that. Why break it up?

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    In a keep 7, I don't think it's a bad idea to move a goalie for a solid keeper at another position. Oshie is definitely not that player. If you are dominating G stats and in a position to win, then you need a top tier player and solid keeper or just stick with what you have.

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    Schneider is worth more than Oshie. I'd be looking for someone more elite too
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    Quote Originally Posted by vonderpibe View Post
    Schneider is worth more than Oshie. I'd be looking for someone more elite too
    Hell yes. You know how difficult it is to find a plug-n-play goalie with Schneider's stats who plays nightly with little to no fear of being replaced. Rhetorical question...

    Look to move Andersen for an upgrade at forward. Or you need a way better skater than Oshie for Schneider. Is there any min starts for goalies?

    Regardless, do not move Schneider unless he backs up the truck.
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