Never trading Ovechkin in a SOG/Hits League!

[Canucks_fan18]

Ok never say never but I have been shopping him for fair value for two years now, for a younger less established forward or a top end goalie. Everyone has been low balling me. I have come to the conclusion that because of his age people do not value him properly. Points only are one thing but in a league that counts SOG/HITs even with expected regression he should be a universal keeper for 3 to 5 years.

Think about it he?s at PPG this year with a good chance to hit 50 goals again. That is pretty well best in a the league fantasy value in SOG/HITs leagues. Now let?s say next year he drops back down to 65 to 70 points and 35 to 40 goals with SOGs/HITs he?s still top 10 at those stats. Then let?s say two season from now he regresses further to a 60-65 points player and 30 to 35 goals, again he would still be a top 20 player. Then finally let?s say 3 seasons from now he?s a 50 to 55 point player with 25 to 30 goals, he would still in these leagues be a top 50 player.

Sorry for the rant but at his age in my leagues at least you will never get a fair return for him. I am going to keep him until he jets to Russia or retires.

[SuperMario]

Sometimes, it's the deals we don't make that win our leagues for us!

[PenguinHunter]

Yup you would have been able to trade him for value up until the age of 29 years and 364 days.... but once players turn that magical age 30... there value disappears.

[Magicstew]

Going to have to wait for a team that gets a star injured and they are in the running for $ or championship. If not just ride him into the sunset and take your 3-5 Year’s of production. I️.m probably going to do this.

[newper114]

Yup you won't get the value you deserve just gotta hang in there until you get a deal you like.

During the NHL playoffs last season I choose to blow up my team in my sig and go for a rebuild. I ended up in a handful of talks for OV but only one worked out. I traded OV for tkachkuk, aberg, 1st rounder 2018 NHL draft class. We have 18 teams do still a decent pick

Probably should have gotten more but hopefully it was good enough.

[ericdaoust]

Most of the time you're better off sticking with your aging stars. Usually you either end up settling for a bad deal because everyone freaks out when players hit 30. It's been happening on this forum, stuff about him being stationary, not moving as quickly, etc. The results are still there though. Maybe he just has a special ability to get shit done? lol

Just be glad you didn't get sucked into the idea that you must deal him though. Your team is better off this way.

[fantasyhockeygeek]

Mr Daoust hits the nail on the head. Lidstrom was as productive in his late 30s as he was in his mid 20s. With aging stars, you are almost always better off riding them into the ground, as every other GM will be irrationally worried that the player will "fall off". It does happen, and it might happen... but once you risk-handicap it you're pretty much better off just riding them until they collapse.

[Canucks_fan18]

Thanks Guys. Frustrating in a sense but I am starting think maybe I should be targeting aging stars from people who are worried about the fall off.

[ericdaoust]

Thanks Guys. Frustrating in a sense but I am starting think maybe I should be targeting aging stars from people who are worried about the fall off.

Buy low, sell high

[fantasyhockeygeek]

Thanks Guys. Frustrating in a sense but I am starting think maybe I should be targeting aging stars from people who are worried about the fall off.

I've won a lot of leagues this way, even going back to that Lidstrom comment!

It takes guts to sell the Marners, Kellers, and McDavids of the world (everybody always wants to build a perpetual winning dynasty) but the reality is that we all underrate the uncertainty of the future, and you're almost always better off locking in the immediate win. Prize money makes it an awful lot easier to look past that future perpetual dynasty that never comes.

[bondon]

I drafted Ovechkin 3rd overall this year in a league that counts hits and sog and took a lot of flack for it. People were laughing and ridiculing me - who wants to take the guy who looks like he's lost a step, who's on the decline..blah blah.

I responded by telling those people that I would have taken him first overall, and that he's going to come back hungrier than ever.

With a guy like Ovechkin you ride these guys into the ground as some have said. I'm keeping him in my keep-1 league until he literally is shit for an entire year.

[Axeman33]

If you don't feel you are getting fair market value, just keep him. Sometimes t's just as easy to enjoy the ride even though we want to get younger. Some guys are just worth riding and Ovechkin is definitely one of them.

[lucafen4]

this is the second time people thought Ovie was done with 50+goal seasons.. he was like 27 or 28 the last time he dipped into the 30's in a season. He could be giving 50 goals in 3 or even 4 years from now too.

[Axeman33]

I will admit, I wrote him off a couple seasons ago to some extent. He's certainly bounced back nicely. Lessons learned.

[ericdaoust]

Worth noting: he's averaging fewer than 2 hits per game this year so he's unlikely to finish over 200 like he does most years. I'll take fewer hits in exchange for more goals any day!