Wow. East Final slump??
From Sportsnet:
The Ottawa Senators have 10 players with no-trade clauses in their contracts and plan to ask each to provide a list of teams they would not be dealt to, according to Sportsnet?s Elliotte Friedman.
Among those players is Senators captain Erik Karlsson, but don?t read into that just yet.
?I was told that does not mean 100 per cent that Erik Karlsson is getting traded. It just opens the option,? Friedman said during the Headlines segment of Hockey Night in Canada on Saturday.
The tactic is similar to what the Senators did in 2011, said Friedman, when they asked for players? no-trade lists before dealing away Mike Fisher, Chris Kelly and Alex Kovalev.
Karlsson, 27, is set to become a free agent following the 2018-19 season. He made headlines last week after telling the Ottawa Sun: ?When I go to market, I?m going to get what I?m worth, and it?s going to be no less, no matter where I?m going.?
While Friedman said the Senators are ?trying to move past that,? fellow insider Nick Kypreos said team owner Eugene Melnyk did not like that Karlsson publicly stated his intention.
When asked if the Senators, who sit second last in the Atlantic Division, should trade the defenceman, Kypreos said it?s a no-brainer.
?Absolutely I would,? Kypreos stated. ?It just doesn?t make sense to pay a guy $12 to $13 million if you can?t afford to surround him with players that can compete.?
Karlsson carries a $6.5-million cap hit this season and next. He has one goal and 18 points in 22 games this season.
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Wow. East Final slump??
Even with the bump in the projected salary cap, I suspect very few teams have the assets, cap space or both to trade for Karlsson. I don't see him moving anytime soon.
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I just don't see them trading Karlsson (anytime soon) but I can certainly see them shopping him as his contract expiration get closer to see whats out there. As I mentioned in a different thread, I can see Karlsson expecting a (and getting) McDavid type contract, if not more in a couple years, especially if the cap raises as we expect it to.
Lets be clear, I have no doubt the Senators will do everything they can to re-sign Karlsson and that is their main priority but if they cannot, I do think they will seriously consider trading him. Much like Seguin and Tavares, the team has enjoyed his performance on a bit of a bargain contract for a few years now.
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This is a non story because this is standard practice and they are just doing their job
but the team does have to explore what Karlsson could fetch because they need to determine if what we see now is the Karlsson he will be for the rest of his career. Right now his injury has forced him to be a good defense man instead of an elite, hands down best in the game dman. If he stays the same, I wouldn’t sign him for 12 million over 8 years.
i think it would be beneficial to not try to come back this year to mitigate the risk of having to trade Karlsson. I’d thwy somehow got Dahlin then him and Chabot would form a good duo to hike around if they had to move on from karlsson
so yeah let’s get this straight. There’s no question the sens would love to keep Karlsson long term , but they can’t cripple themselves if he regresses into a lesser quality dman like we are seeing now
It is kind of interesting, not just on this board, but among Sens fans I know personally, how fast this has changed. About 12 games ago, the thought of trading EK was crazy. Now with his slump and his comments about being paid, Sens fans seem to accept the idea.
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12-team Keeper pool, straight points for forwards & dmen. Goalies get: 2 points per win, 3 per shutout, 1 point per assist & 1 point per shootout loss.
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Top 8 forwards, 5 dmen and 2 goalies count.
We keep 15 players (any position) plus two rookies.
Forwards: Panarin, Ovechkin, Kopitar, Stamkos, Tuch, Rust, Marchessault, Pavelski, Miller, Bertuzzi, Stone, Kakko, Brown, Stankoven, Kovalenko
Defence: Hedman, Fox, Matheson, Thrun, Jiricek
Goalies: Kochetkov, Talbot, Vasilevskiy, Campbell, Schmid
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where oh where would Karlsson want to play? Can't wait to see the list of teams excluded from the no-trade list
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I don't see him getting traded now. No team will give up a monster return until they can get an extension in place, and the Sens aren't going to trade him as a 2 year rental. I don't think he's eligible until July next year or something to sign a new contract so we're going to be hearing a lot of annoying rumors until at least then.
I personally feel that Karlsson will be a Sen no longer than he has left on his current contract.
All things being equal, I could see him wanting to return as long as the club commits to contending, but I don't think the Senators will offer him what he can get elsewhere.
And I actually think that's the right move. So ya, if you can get a team to pony up a fortune for him while he has reasonable term left during a season where they likely won't be cracking the playoffs, then I would at the very least be looking, if not executing.
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If I'm trying to acquire Karlsson, I'm doing it sooner rather than later. Adding someone like this is not a normal deadline acquisition. You need to revamp your entire offensive scheme. Doing that down the stretch would just create too much havoc IMO...
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The only reason he’s ever be traded is if they feel his current post injury level of play is his new normal.
i don’t see him being moved and I think he’ll sign a contract in the summer
most of this talk is toronto media garbage