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    In league in sig, I am thinking of offering my Holtby for Talbot (IR) plus P. Kane or A. Ovechkin. Thoughts?

    Part of my reason for doing so is to get about $10 cheaper for keeper purposes from Holtby to Talbot ($25 vs $15 - auction draft).

    Basically, Holtby and Talbot are really about even the rest of this year and next right? Or at least, there is no way to know who might be better, so it is worth getting a plus? I would probably drop Kyle
    Connor or Elias Lindholm to make room, and when Talbot comes off IR.
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    Default Re: trade help - Holtby for Talbot Plus??

    Good Luck... as a P. Kane and Ovy owner is separate leagues I wouldn't trade either them individually for Holtby... let alone adding Talbot.

    You might be able to if the owner is desparat to get a goalie to replace Talbot... but I think you need to add to Holtby to swing this.

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    Default Re: trade help - Holtby for Talbot Plus??

    well in our league goalie stats count for 4/11 cats, so cheap keeper goalies are to die for. Holtby at $25 is a sweet deal (at least until this year). The other owner has had Elliot, Kuemper and Nilsson this year, and just somehow swung Nilsson for Talbot!!! So I think I want to capitalize on that, and say hey listen, you could go from Nilsson to Holtby.
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    Default Re: trade help - Holtby for Talbot Plus??

    our goalies are 5/12 for cats. I'd prefer holtby over talbot easily but know way is the difference ovi or kane.
    that being said or league is not a cap league so it may be worth a try.
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    Default Re: trade help - Holtby for Talbot Plus??

    If you can pull it off do it but it seems like an overpayment for. Holtby. Also if you do this I would not expect Talbot to be equal to Holtby when he gets back and tbd for next year. With Holtby you know what you're getting, there are alot more uncertainties with Talbot and Edmonton. Coming from an oiler fan.
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    Default Re: trade help - Holtby for Talbot Plus??

    Quote Originally Posted by joe jones View Post
    In league in sig, I am thinking of offering my Holtby for Talbot (IR) plus P. Kane or A. Ovechkin. Thoughts?

    Part of my reason for doing so is to get about $10 cheaper for keeper purposes from Holtby to Talbot ($25 vs $15 - auction draft).

    Basically, Holtby and Talbot are really about even the rest of this year and next right? Or at least, there is no way to know who might be better, so it is worth getting a plus? I would probably drop Kyle
    Connor or Elias Lindholm to make room, and when Talbot comes off IR.
    No. I think there is basically zero reason to think Talbot > Holtby any time soon. I probably wouldn't keep Talbot in a keep 4, even an auction keep 4.

    While technically there's no way to know who will be better, I'd much prefer the guy who:

    - has individual stats that are elite, not just team stats
    - has been an elite starter longer than the other guys has been a starter
    - is not injured
    - is younger by multiple years
    - is on a better team at the moment

    You can sell this as a big upgrade in net, now and for the future, but the keeper cost may not work for him long term. Also I don't think he'll give up that much, but I could be wrong on that. Of course if the other deal was Nillson for Talbot straight up, anything is possible.
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    Default Re: trade help - Holtby for Talbot Plus??

    Thanks all. I ended up sending holtby and stepan for pt kane and talbot. I think i like it.
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    In any event, a trade is always fun.
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    LW - Ehlers, Guentzel, Pacioretty, Connor
    RW - Kucherov, P. Kane, Arvidsson(LW), Debrincat
    D - Letang, OEL, Faulk, Yandle
    G - Hellebuyck, Talbot, Anderson
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