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    Still early to hit the panic button, but I have a standing offer from diehard oiler GM, basically to take any of his players I want from his team.
    After this year, MCD is expensive, Crosby a bargain, I need goaltending (Price will be price too).

    I am considering to redo my team if Lundquist and Price don't shape up US thanksgiving.

    I can get Hedman, Barrie too, but cap space is tight.

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    KFHL - 14 Team H2H keeper,NHLsalcap, protect 17/20, (4D, 3X(C,RW,LW), 2G, filler to 20, plus 2IR) ten waivers picks per season.
    Cats Skaters: G/A/Pts/BLK/HITS/SOG/PIM/GWG/SHP/PPP; Goalies W/SO/GAA/SvPct/SOG
    C: Crosby, Kadri, RNH, Roslovic
    LW: Hall, Lindblom, Kubalic, Bratt, Lemieux, Gurianov
    RW: Palmieri, Niederreiter dropping soon, Wheeler
    D: Chabot, Josi, Gustafsson, Krug, McNabb
    G: Rask, Bishop, Binnington


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    This is an immediate accept, for me.

    It's a 14-team h2h, depth is what will win you a league, not concentrated talent. Especially in a 14-team league, having three starters is HUGE value. This isn't a 1-for-3... you have to consider the other three.

    McDavd + Debrincat (your worst winger) + Dell

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    Crosby + Keller + Talbot

    That's a massive win, for this season and for all your keepers. I would do this deal before the other GM comes to their senses. Obviously you need to manage the cap, but wow that makes your team monstrously better.

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    ^Well explained.
    I think it is a good deal too... especially in a cap league.

    I will say, I'd get greedy here.
    If he SENT you that deal, tell him you are interested and would do if he throws in a 1st round pick.
    If he really wants McDavid, that will be no issue.

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    I would drop Cammy before Debrincat, but otherwise I agree with FHG.
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    EB, you think Debrincat outscores Cammalleri this year? Neither should be keepers on that squad beyond this season, and Cammy is coming at a very attractive $1M cap hit.

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    he's also got Draisaitl, Larkin, Yamamoto...

    its very difficult to rejig my team under the cap, so that is a big issue - Jamie Benn and Lundquist are heavy sal cap hits, lundy turning into an albatross.

    I don't need to hurry, I have until Christmas or even later.

    Thanks, I wanted to see that folks agree I should try to make a combo that works under the cap.
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    Cats Skaters: G/A/Pts/BLK/HITS/SOG/PIM/GWG/SHP/PPP; Goalies W/SO/GAA/SvPct/SOG
    C: Crosby, Kadri, RNH, Roslovic
    LW: Hall, Lindblom, Kubalic, Bratt, Lemieux, Gurianov
    RW: Palmieri, Niederreiter dropping soon, Wheeler
    D: Chabot, Josi, Gustafsson, Krug, McNabb
    G: Rask, Bishop, Binnington


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    I like Pengwin7's advice, ask for a 1st to be added. Crosby's 30... so there's a "negative" on him. unlikely he adds any of the 3 players you've listed. 2 are Oilers and Larkin is lighting it up so far
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    LOL everyone so greedy these days hahaha

    It's a good offer. in a sal cap league I would do it. But never hurts to ask for a picks.
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    Ya, in your format, I'd want that deal!
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    I guess I am hitting the panic button after watching another Lundquist fiasco last night! Good grief, is he really over the hill with a $8.5M AAV, dang it. I know he has rough Octobers but I'm sorry this is crap.

    The deal is shaping up as:
    Crosby, Keller and Talbot, plus maybe Larkin, and try to fit Evander Kane in somehow. The other GM said take whatever I want Damn cap space is killin me.

    Im giving him McD plus any fillers I want to trow in....
    - Dell
    - Jost?
    - Debricat?
    - Cammaleri
    - Konecny? he doesnt play much
    - Palmieri(just picked him up
    - Carter (IR)
    - Zuccarello?

    Question, who are my dumps for this trade?
    KFHL - 14 Team H2H keeper,NHLsalcap, protect 17/20, (4D, 3X(C,RW,LW), 2G, filler to 20, plus 2IR) ten waivers picks per season.
    Cats Skaters: G/A/Pts/BLK/HITS/SOG/PIM/GWG/SHP/PPP; Goalies W/SO/GAA/SvPct/SOG
    C: Crosby, Kadri, RNH, Roslovic
    LW: Hall, Lindblom, Kubalic, Bratt, Lemieux, Gurianov
    RW: Palmieri, Niederreiter dropping soon, Wheeler
    D: Chabot, Josi, Gustafsson, Krug, McNabb
    G: Rask, Bishop, Binnington


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    few more players from his team include Caggula, Draisaitl, SReinhart, Skjei, Hedman, Neal - I think we wants to keep Draisitl though
    KFHL - 14 Team H2H keeper,NHLsalcap, protect 17/20, (4D, 3X(C,RW,LW), 2G, filler to 20, plus 2IR) ten waivers picks per season.
    Cats Skaters: G/A/Pts/BLK/HITS/SOG/PIM/GWG/SHP/PPP; Goalies W/SO/GAA/SvPct/SOG
    C: Crosby, Kadri, RNH, Roslovic
    LW: Hall, Lindblom, Kubalic, Bratt, Lemieux, Gurianov
    RW: Palmieri, Niederreiter dropping soon, Wheeler
    D: Chabot, Josi, Gustafsson, Krug, McNabb
    G: Rask, Bishop, Binnington


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    the more players you add, the worse your cap hit situation is going to get. skip larkin (one dimensional) and take E Kane - multi-cat stud on a great contract (this year)

    K. Hayes would be a drop - as would Cammalleri if this deal goes through.

    Crosby, keller, Talbot is a haul itself. add in E.Kane in your settings.. gravy
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    the more players you add, the worse your cap hit situation is going to get. skip larkin (one dimensional) and take E Kane - multi-cat stud on a great contract (this year)

    K. Hayes would be a drop - as would Cammalleri if this deal goes through.

    Crosby, keller, Talbot is a haul itself. add in E.Kane in your settings.. gravy
    Do you not have to worry about this getting vetoed at some point? I mean, go crazy and get a great return, but let's not go insane crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kofax View Post
    Do you not have to worry about this getting vetoed at some point? I mean, go crazy and get a great return, but let's not go insane crazy.
    that would be interesting to know - has anyone seen a McDavid trade vetoed because one team gave up too much to get him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    that would be interesting to know - has anyone seen a McDavid trade vetoed because one team gave up too much to get him?
    An update ...k i done the dirty deed .... took most of lucafen4's advisement, but could not swing cap room for Kane (it would have taken a 3 GM transaction - too complicated to pull off). Anyways I cant dump Patches that quickly.

    Our Commishes are quite anal so the trade was monitored but approved. It was a blockbuster deal.

    I gave up:
    McDavid
    Cammalleri
    Zuccarello
    A Martinez
    Jost
    Dell

    I got:
    Crosby
    Keller
    Talbot (KEY to the deal for me)
    Brossoit (Oiler insurance and prospect)
    Larkin ( i drafted him 2 yrs ago so have an attachment - hope he doesnt crap out)
    Skjei (needed cap room)

    AND swapped Kevin Hayes for a waiver pickup (Josh Anderson - talking a flyer on this monster)

    I made my bed, now Im going to lay down.
    KFHL - 14 Team H2H keeper,NHLsalcap, protect 17/20, (4D, 3X(C,RW,LW), 2G, filler to 20, plus 2IR) ten waivers picks per season.
    Cats Skaters: G/A/Pts/BLK/HITS/SOG/PIM/GWG/SHP/PPP; Goalies W/SO/GAA/SvPct/SOG
    C: Crosby, Kadri, RNH, Roslovic
    LW: Hall, Lindblom, Kubalic, Bratt, Lemieux, Gurianov
    RW: Palmieri, Niederreiter dropping soon, Wheeler
    D: Chabot, Josi, Gustafsson, Krug, McNabb
    G: Rask, Bishop, Binnington


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