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    2017-18 goalie list. Just a general list. For everyone to look at for this year. I will edit. Let me know who should be moved up down added. I think every year gets tougher to pick goalies in fantasy.
    List not done yet. Will add more.

    Holtby
    Murray
    Talbot
    Price
    Andersen
    Bobrovsky
    Dubnyk
    Crawford
    Allen
    Rask
    Bishop
    Jones
    Lundqvist
    Quick
    Vasilevskiy
    Rinne
    Anderson
    Lehner
    Smith
    Schneider
    Darling
    Raanta
    Elliot
    Mason
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    For me, Price up, add Darling, Raanta and Elliott.
    I'm not as high as others on Dubnyk, Bob or Hank either.
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    Jones and Crawford too high - they're not superb goalies in their own right and their teams are likely to take steps back.
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    For me, any goalie list order ranking (1,2,3,4,5,6...etc) is deceiving.
    And besides that, leagues can be W or W/GAA/SV%.
    For pure wins, quickest calc is just to take Vegas Over/Unders, divide by 2.2 to get a Predicted Win Amount and then multiply that by %Starts by G1.
    I've got my own spreadsheet for that which, unsurprisingly, puts Holtby/Talbot/Murray at top of Wins-count.

    Tiering is a lot better way to see it, because I love the value on the back-end of a tier rather than the front-end of a tier that may NOT be the start of a run:
    Tier I: Holtby
    Tier I/II: Price(periph-heavy-league), Talbot(win-heavy-league), Murray(pts/gp-weight)
    Tier II: A boatload of guys, from G05-G20 or so (incl. Anderson, Quick, Allen, Schneider at the back-end)
    Tier III: From about 20-25, it gets a bit more dicey - depends on how much somebody likes Halak/Elliott/Darling/Lehner/Mason... but that ain't bad names for 20-25 range!!! (IMO)
    Tier IV: Teams 26-31: FLA, Raanta(ARI), DET, VAN, COL, VEG
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    I'd have Gibson on there somewhere.. certainly ahead of Raanta, at the very least!
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    Gibson should be in the Andersen/Dubnyk/Brob tier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    For me, any goalie list order ranking (1,2,3,4,5,6...etc) is deceiving.
    And besides that, leagues can be W or W/GAA/SV%.
    For pure wins, quickest calc is just to take Vegas Over/Unders, divide by 2.2 to get a Predicted Win Amount and then multiply that by %Starts by G1.
    I've got my own spreadsheet for that which, unsurprisingly, puts Holtby/Talbot/Murray at top of Wins-count.

    Tiering is a lot better way to see it, because I love the value on the back-end of a tier rather than the front-end of a tier that may NOT be the start of a run:
    Tier I: Holtby
    Tier I/II: Price(periph-heavy-league), Talbot(win-heavy-league), Murray(pts/gp-weight)
    Tier II: A boatload of guys, from G05-G20 or so (incl. Anderson, Quick, Allen, Schneider at the back-end)
    Tier III: From about 20-25, it gets a bit more dicey - depends on how much somebody likes Halak/Elliott/Darling/Lehner/Mason... but that ain't bad names for 20-25 range!!! (IMO)
    Tier IV: Teams 26-31: FLA, Raanta(ARI), DET, VAN, COL, VEG
    Agree with Pengy, need to know the criteria of your league and put the goalies in Tiers. Nice list Pengy
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    Quote Originally Posted by SergeP View Post
    Gibson should be in the Andersen/Dubnyk/Brob tier.
    I also wouldn't have Andersen that high personally.. but was more concerned about the complete lack of poor old Gibson.

    All said though, I agree with the above posters that Tier lists are certainly a better way to rank goalies, if not all positions.
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    My league is W, GAA, Sv%. My tiers so far are:

    Holtby
    Murray
    Price

    Talbot
    Andersen
    Bobrovsky
    Dubnyk
    Crawford

    Allen
    Rask
    Jones
    Lundqvist
    Vasilevskiy
    Gibson
    Schneider
    Bishop
    Anderson


    Quick
    Rinne
    Lehner
    Elliot

    Fleury
    Darling
    Raanta
    Mason
    Smith

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    Greiss
    Reimer
    Varlamov
    Howard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Robbie View Post
    My league is W, GAA, Sv%. My tiers so far are:

    Holtby
    Murray
    Price

    Talbot
    Andersen
    Bobrovsky
    Dubnyk
    Crawford

    Allen
    Rask
    Jones
    Lundqvist
    Vasilevskiy
    Gibson
    Schneider
    Bishop
    Anderson


    Quick
    Rinne
    Lehner
    Elliot

    Fleury
    Darling
    Raanta
    Mason
    Smith

    Luongo
    Greiss
    Reimer
    Varlamov
    Howard
    Talbot and Crawford cannot be in the same tier, and Quick seems low. Otherwise solid effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    For me, any goalie list order ranking (1,2,3,4,5,6...etc) is deceiving.
    And besides that, leagues can be W or W/GAA/SV%.
    For pure wins, quickest calc is just to take Vegas Over/Unders, divide by 2.2 to get a Predicted Win Amount and then multiply that by %Starts by G1.
    I've got my own spreadsheet for that which, unsurprisingly, puts Holtby/Talbot/Murray at top of Wins-count.

    Tiering is a lot better way to see it, because I love the value on the back-end of a tier rather than the front-end of a tier that may NOT be the start of a run:
    Tier I: Holtby
    Tier I/II: Price(periph-heavy-league), Talbot(win-heavy-league), Murray(pts/gp-weight)
    Tier II: A boatload of guys, from G05-G20 or so (incl. Anderson, Quick, Allen, Schneider at the back-end)
    Tier III: From about 20-25, it gets a bit more dicey - depends on how much somebody likes Halak/Elliott/Darling/Lehner/Mason... but that ain't bad names for 20-25 range!!! (IMO)
    Tier IV: Teams 26-31: FLA, Raanta(ARI), DET, VAN, COL, VEG
    Agree with this, Penguin, though I'm not very optimistic about Holtby this year. Not that I wouldn't put him near or at the top, but I don't see a lot of daylight between him and your other top-tier guys.

    I feel I've had good success in league in my sig basically ignoring goalies for many rounds while the first 10 to 12 goalies go. At that point, the other nine teams have at least one goalie and I know which ones already have two, so the back end of that Tier II can just hang around for a while, sometimes into the 11th-15th round. The other GMs with only one goalie are usually using a similar strategy and so aren't eager to start a run on the Anderson/Quick/Schneider types either. Eventually, it's usually one of the teams with two goaliesalready that thinks they'll grab a solid back up or a trading chit, but by then I often have a nice core of skaters.

    There is enough variability in goalie performance from year to year that you have a good chance of snagging a year like Bobrovsky's first Vezina win, Thomas' Stanley Cup year, or Anderson 2013-2014 (three I was lucky enough to ride to good seasons). It's a bit of a boom-or-bust strategy, but you usually need some luck to break your way to win first place, and it's more likely to happen with your goalies than your skaters.
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