Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: Keith vs. Schultz

  1. #1
    epik87's Avatar
    epik87 is offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    293
    Rep Power
    0

    Dobber Sports Blue-Chipper

    Default Keith vs. Schultz

    My keeper forwards are set, but I have to let one of my D-men go. I'm looking to keep Hedman and Pietrangelo, but can only keep one of Keith or Schultz. Not sure how to proceed. Keith will probably continue to digress over time, but with Schultz...I'm having a hard time deciding if his performance last year will be something sustainable. Is he the real deal? Either player, I will probably end up trading before our draft to gain another pick. Our league has 14 teams, and we count HITS/BLOCKS in addition to normal Yahoo stats.
    Hockey Keeper Leagues:

    #1 - 16 team H2H (Dynasty - YR2), Standard Yahoo Categories + HIT/BLK+ NO PIM
    C- Backstrom, Kesler, Getzlaf, Thornton, Nugent-Hopkins
    LW - Benn, Lee, Kreider, Johansson, Smith, Sedin
    RW - Neal, Vanek, Goldobin, Abramov
    D - Burns, Seabrook, Leddy, Ellis, de Haan
    G - Bobrovsky, Condon

    #2 - 14 team H2H (Keeper 11S + 2G), Standard Yahoo Categories + HIT/BLK
    C - Crosby, Malkin, Backstrom, Hischier
    LW - Ovechkin, Huberdeau, Schenn, Tkachuk, Kunitz
    RW - Atkinson, Duchene, Lindholm, Point
    D - Hedman, Pietrangelo, Ekblad, Reilly, Chabot
    G - Jones, Allen, Dell, Hutton
    [Bold = Last Year Keepers]

  2. #2
    Location
    Nova Scotia
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Immortal

    Default Re: Keith vs. Schultz

    I'd keep Keith. Neither guy is going to offer much for peripheral stats but Keith is still the better offensive player IMO.


    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, JaBenn, Couture, Wheeler, Lee, Turris, Letang, Kucherov, Byfuglien, Burns, Zuccarello, Hoffman, JSchwartz, KPalmieri, KConnor, Konecny, Bjorkstrand, Point, KHayes, OEL, Vrana, NSchmaltz

    G- Vasilevskiy, Bobrovsky


    "Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."

  3. #3
    RizzeeDizzee's Avatar
    RizzeeDizzee is online now
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    5,329
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Superstar

    Default Re: Keith vs. Schultz

    Keith - you know his downside and he could still get you 50 if things align well. Schultz worries me since he had his only good season when he just so happened to be playing for his very future. Plus, a healthy Letang would cannibalize Schultz's points.
    DobberHockey Senior Writer (columnist since 2012)
    Click here to read my weekly Cage Match column, pitting two similar NHLers against each other to determine which one is better for your fantasy team: http://www.dobberhockey.com/Table/Ho...me/Cage-Match/


  4. #4
    wonko's Avatar
    wonko is online now
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    1,872
    Location
    Mountains
    Rep Power
    21

    Dobber Sports Stud

    Default Re: Keith vs. Schultz

    Keith likely puts up high 40's with no peripherals. He is on the decline.

    Schultz has the potential to put up 50, but not with a healthy Letang. I think Schultz ends the season somewhere in the high 30's. Even with Letang playing 65 games it will eat away at Schultz's value considerably. Plus Schultz has not yet proven he can replicate last season even if he is given the opportunity.

    I prefer Keith.
    10 Owner Keeper League
    3-C 3-RW 3-LW 6-D 2-G Played each night. 6-Reserve spots
    Keep 10
    forward - 2-goal 1-assist
    D-men - 3-goal 1.5-assist
    1-PPP or SHP .1-shot .1-hit .1-block .05-face-off win
    Goalie 3-win .1-save & negative .5 goal against


    C:
    Bergeron,Trocheck, Stastny, Zibanejad
    RW: Pavelski, Tarasenko, Seguin, Arvidsson,
    LW: Kreider, Zetterberg, Jenner, Zucker, Ferland
    D: Burns, Josi, Subban, Faulk, D. Hamilton, Martinez, Heed,
    G: Crawford, Bishop, Dubnyk,

  5. #5
    Location
    Toronto, Ontario
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Legend

    Default Re: Keith vs. Schultz

    I had a similar situation and kept Schultz. I'm just not a fan of Keith. Chicago on the whole is going down too.
    Capped writer for DobberHockey. Find the latest articles here: http://www.dobberhockey.com/Table/Hockey-home/Capped/
    Twitter: @alexdmaclean
    (No I don't have a hockey problem...)


  6. #6
    LeTrefle's Avatar
    LeTrefle is online now
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    2,374
    Location
    Q
    Rep Power
    32

    Dobber Sports Pro

    Default Re: Keith vs. Schultz

    I want Keith
    I don't trust Schultz to repeat
    Keeper league (12 teams) - keep 6 (+ NHL team is auto keep)
    Weekly lineup: 1T, 9F, 4D, 1G
    Points only:
    Forwards & Dmen: goal (1), assist (1)
    Goalies: win (2), otl/sol (1), shutout (2)
    Team: win (2), otl/sol (1)
    Only 2 FA pickups for the season (remaining: 0)

    [T] Edmonton
    [F] Crosby, P.Kane, Benn, Atkinson, Krejci, Thornton, Nyquist, Dadonov, Hertl, Stastny, Galchenyuk, Williams, Silfverberg
    [D] Burns, Faulk, Fowler, Severson, Stralman, Heed, DelZotto
    [G] Price, Talbot


  7. #7
    Bass56's Avatar
    Bass56 is online now
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    7,765
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Guru

    Default Re: Keith vs. Schultz

    I'd take Keith for this year. Schultz should play second fiddle to Letang. If you want to gamble that Letang gets injured again, then you can pump Schultz' tires but otherwise, you know what to expect with Keith.


    Keeper league 14 teams (H2H, 20 active players keep 16 NHLers, 15 minors)
    Scoring Cats: G-A-PTS-PPG-PPA-(+/-)-PIM-SHP-SOG-FOW-GWG / W-L-SVS-SV%-GAA-SO

    C- Crosby, Pavelski, Toews, Spezza, Dvorak
    W- Benn, Voracek, Forsberg, Okposo, Sheary, Burakovsky, Nyquist, Zacha, Beauvillier
    D- Carlson, Yandle, Provorov
    G- Price, Smith, Hellebuyck, Greiss, Halak

    Minors:
    F: N.Schmaltz, McLeod, Milano, Weal, Hawryluk, Merkley, Senyshyn, Necas, Yamamoto, Heponiemi
    D: Pulock, Montour, Lindell, Juolevi, J. Schmaltz
    G: DiPietro, Montembeault, Martin, Taylor

  8. #8
    epik87's Avatar
    epik87 is offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    293
    Rep Power
    0

    Dobber Sports Blue-Chipper

    Default Re: Keith vs. Schultz

    Thanks guys for the insight. I was out of the playoffs by 1 spot. As long as my team stays healthy and solid, I should be contending for the trophy. I think I'll go with Keith and then go into the draft to cover my peripheral deficiencies. I forgot about Letang's injury woes last season, so that makes sense why Schultz would rise up. Since last season sucked, I do have a decent position in a non-snake draft.

  9. #9
    Location
    Ottawa
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Sage

    Default Re: Keith vs. Schultz

    I think Keith might regress, but I digress...

    I'd keep Keith.

  10. #10
    MZac's Avatar
    MZac is online now
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    1,630
    Rep Power
    21

    Dobber Sports Stud

    Default Re: Keith vs. Schultz

    I'd go against the grain here and keep Schultz. I think you can get a better return on a declining Keith. There are a number of people that over value him, at this point of his career that may not last another season or two.
    Set roster weekly in H2H (Mon to Sun) - 16 Teams - start 6F, 3D, and 1G per week - Keep 2

    Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO

    Forwards:
    J. Eichel, S. Crosby, B. Schenn, N. MacKinnon, M. Zibanejad, N. Ehlers E. Lindholm

    Defense:
    J. Klingberg, S. Gostisbehere, J. Carlson

    Goalie:
    B. Bishop, C. Hellebuyck

    IR: C. Fowler, R. Getzlaf

  11. #11
    RizzeeDizzee's Avatar
    RizzeeDizzee is online now
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    5,329
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Superstar

    Default Re: Keith vs. Schultz

    Quote Originally Posted by als_revenge View Post
    I think Keith might regress, but I digress...

    I'd keep Keith.
    Fantasy advice, and poetic too! Nice touch.
    DobberHockey Senior Writer (columnist since 2012)
    Click here to read my weekly Cage Match column, pitting two similar NHLers against each other to determine which one is better for your fantasy team: http://www.dobberhockey.com/Table/Ho...me/Cage-Match/


  12. #12
    Location
    Vancouver, BC
    Rep Power
    4

    Dobber Sports Prodigy

    Default Re: Keith vs. Schultz

    depends how far ahead you are thinking? Keith is still gonna be getting all the top minutes. Schultz won't be unless (or when) Letang gets hurt or forced to retire
    Weekly H2H 4games/week. 14 Teams,21 Player roster+ 3 protected prospects
    20 week Regular season + 3 Rounds of Playoffs
    Keep 10

    G+A = 1pt, Dman G+A = 1.5pt, PPG =1pt, PPA = 0.5pt, SHG = 1pt, SHA = 0.5pt, ShootoutG = 0.25pt, GWG = 1pt, Hatty = 3pt, DMan Hatty = 5pt, +/- (For D only) = +/- 1pt, W = 2pt, L = -1pt, OTL = 1pt, ShootoutL = 0.5pt, SO = 1pt, S = 0.1pt, GA = -0.5pt, Goalie Goal = 5pt

    Each week play: 3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 3 D, 2 G
    C: Stamkos, Tavares, JT Miller, Stepan
    LW: B. Schenn, Ehlers, Schwartz, Perreault, Zacha
    RW: Atkinson, Toffoli, Lindholm, Coyle, Williams
    D: Letang, Burns, Weber, Brodie
    G: Price, Vasilevskiy, Darling
    Prospects: Sorokin, Kaprizov, Chabot

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •