[TRADE] Cavs-Celtics Blockbuster

[rataylor22]

Trade:

Cavs get: Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic & unprotected 2018 Nets 1st-rounder

Celtics get: Kyrie Irving

(Via ESPN)

I mean it's basketball, so who cares, but that's a massive trade. Cavs absolutely caved in the Celtics on this one.

[Bobby4Ever]

Good trade for Celts!!

[The Bottlenecker]

My son, a big basketball fan, said this was massive. But it ain't hockey, so how big can it really be??? LOL.

[Axeman33]

Is Kyrie Irving that much better than Isiah Thomas that the Celts needed to add in all those other parts, especially that early 1st round pick??

[RizzeeDizzee]

Is Kyrie Irving that much better than Isiah Thomas that the Celts needed to add in all those other parts, especially that early 1st round pick??

He's signed for an additional year and don't have the same health concerns, but yeah, tossing in the 1st when the Cavs were somewhat behind the 8 ball seems like a lot.

[hockeyrobot]

Glad this is over.

[Magicstew]

Think the Cavs did alright considering they were under the gun. Getting the 1st was bonus. NOW back to hockey ....

[Pengwin7]

It's a good trade for both teams.
From what I've heard, Thomas is pretty cocky dude that believes he deserves a max contact.
I think that sort of personality can exist in CLE... because he can be "Max" alongside LeBron and still not ruffle feathers, the defacto #2.
But... in BOS... with a guy like Ainge & coach Stevens... I think they need to be more "team", and I do believe Irving will play into that role well.

Ultimately, both teams did well.
BOS got the better team player, IMO, and I think they'll get Kyrie to fit in - he'll want to, its going to be huge for him to displace Cleveland.
CLE got the better pieces in total.
And both teams have established an instant rivalry for next 3 years.
Win/win/win. The East FINALLY has something interesting!

[rataylor22]

It's a good trade for both teams.
From what I've heard, Thomas is pretty cocky dude that believes he deserves a max contact.
I think that sort of personality can exist in CLE... because he can be "Max" alongside LeBron and still not ruffle feathers, the defacto #2.
But... in BOS... with a guy like Ainge & coach Stevens... I think they need to be more "team", and I do believe Irving will play into that role well.

Ultimately, both teams did well.
BOS got the better team player, IMO, and I think they'll get Kyrie to fit in - he'll want to, its going to be huge for him to displace Cleveland.
CLE got the better pieces in total.
And both teams have established an instant rivalry for next 3 years.
Win/win/win. The East FINALLY has something interesting!

FWIW, Kyrie is also going to get a max contract lol.

[newfcollins]

FWIW, Kyrie is also going to get a max contract lol.

Also FWIW, Lebron is gone from Cleveland after this season. All these pieces will help the Cavs down the road.

[blayze]

This is a home run for the Cavs given the situation... Kyrie vs Thomas is almost a wash imo - to get all those other young assets is huge.

Kind of surprised Boston offered up so much young talent and prospects for a marginal upgrade at best. Who knows what kind of impact Kyrie will have on the chemistry in Boston, he clearly doesn't want to share the limelight.

[BreadManPanarin]

Also FWIW, Lebron is gone from Cleveland after this season. All these pieces will help the Cavs down the road.

He'll never be the GOAT, so he might as well go for the title of Greatest Mercenary of All Time, right? lol

[rataylor22]

He'll never be the GOAT, so he might as well go for the title of Greatest Mercenary of All Time, right? lol

Countered with lots of stats based arguments that he already is the GOAT.

[blayze]

Countered with lots of stats based arguments that he already is the GOAT.

Statistically they are somewhat close, but his Airness clearly has the King trumped where it matters most.

http://www.landofbasketball.com/play...ael_jordan.htm


Lebron vs Kobe is a much closer comparison IMO...

[BreadManPanarin]

Countered with lots of stats based arguments that he already is the GOAT.

You are right, people will and do argue it. I bet there are even people who would pick a 22 year old Lebron James over a 22 year old Michael Jordan if they were starting a team from scratch. I believe they would be making a mistake, but that is just my opinion. Greatest of all time will always be just an opinion thing. Personally I think it is clearly Mike based on his flawless finals record and unreal clutchness.

http://www.landofbasketball.com/play...ael_jordan.htm

Hard to believe Lebron has never managed to get his FT% above 80... .740 seems pretty low for a superstar, especially on what should be the easiest part of the game to master if you are willing to put in the time and effort.

Last season was the worst of his career at .674. Yikes