Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Just want some thoughts on this proposal...

  1. #1
    knoble's Avatar
    knoble is offline
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    592
    Rep Power
    9

    Dobber Sports Apprentice

    Default Just want some thoughts on this proposal...

    Thinking about sending an offer of:

    My Larkin, Krug and Hellybuck

    for his

    Sam Reinhart, Doughty and Vasilievsky

    My thoughts would be
    Reinhart >>> Larkin
    Doughty < Krug
    Vasilievsky > Hellybuck (mainly because he should get more guranteed starts)


    Doughty might be a push to get the other owner to agree too. He also has Justin Faulk, Nick Leddy, Tyson Barrie, and T.J. Brodie. Doughty and Faulk are the only ones I would really consider.

    Please give me some thoughts on this.
    For second team in signature. Goals and assists are 1 point, powerplay points are a bonus point.
    1st teamC: S. Aho, E. Malkin, W. Karllson, B. Nelson
    LW: B. Marchand, A. Ovechkin, J. Zucker, N. Niederreiter, A. Svechnikov,

    RW: D. Perron, J. Kyrou, C. Keller, D. Strome, T. Toffoli, C. Perfetti,
    D: j. Carlson, D. Hamilton, R. Andersson, F. Hronek,J. Spurgeon
    G: , C. Hellybuck, J. Ottinger, A. Vasilevskiy

    2nd team
    C: E. Lindholm, J. Pavelski, JT Miller, R. Johansen, A. Killorn, B. Jenner(IR)

    LW: , B. Marchand, A. Mangiapane, T. Toffoli, J. Gaudreau

    RW: P. Kane, Pasta, D. Perron, T. Wilson, N. Schmaltz, M. Tkackuk
    D: J. Carlson, A. Pietriangelo, C. McAvoy, N. Schmidt, J. Trouba, J. Morrissey
    G: J. Markstrom, C. Hellybuyck, T. Jarry

  2. #2
    jdreed3184's Avatar
    jdreed3184 is offline
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    1,366
    Location
    Denver
    Rep Power
    32

    Dobber Sports Ace

    Default Re: Just want some thoughts on this proposal...

    I like the deal for you. I'd go for it.

    For what its worth, I'd see if he'd do Zaitsev instead of Krug. Don't be afraid of Leddy either - it wouldn't surprise me if Leddy outscores Doughty and Faulk in your format for the next 2-3 years.
    H2H Dynasty, 16 Team Salary: G, A, PPP, SOG, Hits, BKS, SHTOI, W, Sv%, Saves, GA%, (4C, 4RW, 4LW, 6D, 1G)

    C: Crosby, Malkin, Larkin, Hartman, McBain, Joshua
    RW: Rantanen, Konecny, Strome, Batherson, Zetterland
    LW: Buchnevich, Ehlers, Marchessault, Bertuzzi, Acciari
    D: McNabb, Ferraro, Hakanpaa, Lyabushkin, Samuelsson, Bernard-Docker, Emberson
    G: Merzlikens, Daccord, Samsonov
    Prospects: Kurich, Lucius, Pelletier, Cristall, Yurov, Beckman, Brisson, Dean, Phillips, Poitras

  3. #3
    Bass56's Avatar
    Bass56 is offline
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    8,332
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Giant

    Default Re: Just want some thoughts on this proposal...

    I like your breakdown on the trade. I too think it would be a good move for you. Vasilevskiy vs Hellebuyck can end up being closer to a wash but otherwise I think you walk away a winner by pulling the trigger here!
    Keeper league 14 teams (H2H, 20 active players keep 16 NHLers, 16 minors)
    Scoring Cats: G-A-PTS-PPG-PPA-(+/-)-HITS-BLK-SHP-SOG-FOW-GWG / W-L-SVS-SV%-GAA-SO

    C- Crosby, Barzal, Bennett, Schmaltz, Novak
    W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
    D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
    G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka

    Minors:
    F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
    D: Simashev, Willander, Lambos
    G: Schmidt, Rodrigue, DiPietro, Gaudreau, McKay

  4. #4
    knoble's Avatar
    knoble is offline
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    592
    Rep Power
    9

    Dobber Sports Apprentice

    Default Re: Just want some thoughts on this proposal...

    I had sent an original offer of my Larkin, Carlson and Helly for Reinhart and Vasileivsky. It was rejected and he said he was looking for a bigger d-man than Carlson. So I don't think Zaitzev would work. I am not trading Karlsson or Klingberg (like having Klingberg to go with Benn and Seguin) which leaves Krug. If I am trading Krug, I would want a good d-man coming back.
    1st teamC: S. Aho, E. Malkin, W. Karllson, B. Nelson
    LW: B. Marchand, A. Ovechkin, J. Zucker, N. Niederreiter, A. Svechnikov,

    RW: D. Perron, J. Kyrou, C. Keller, D. Strome, T. Toffoli, C. Perfetti,
    D: j. Carlson, D. Hamilton, R. Andersson, F. Hronek,J. Spurgeon
    G: , C. Hellybuck, J. Ottinger, A. Vasilevskiy

    2nd team
    C: E. Lindholm, J. Pavelski, JT Miller, R. Johansen, A. Killorn, B. Jenner(IR)

    LW: , B. Marchand, A. Mangiapane, T. Toffoli, J. Gaudreau

    RW: P. Kane, Pasta, D. Perron, T. Wilson, N. Schmaltz, M. Tkackuk
    D: J. Carlson, A. Pietriangelo, C. McAvoy, N. Schmidt, J. Trouba, J. Morrissey
    G: J. Markstrom, C. Hellybuyck, T. Jarry

  5. #5
    Location
    Nova Scotia
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Deity

    Default Re: Just want some thoughts on this proposal...

    I like that deal for you. I am not sure I agree that Krug is the better option over Doughty so that's why I like this deal. I see them more as equal.

    I see it as a win for you.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


    "Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."

  6. #6
    knoble's Avatar
    knoble is offline
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    592
    Rep Power
    9

    Dobber Sports Apprentice

    Default Re: Just want some thoughts on this proposal...

    Would you do this deal without the goalie swap? Reinhart and Doughty for Krug and Larkin?
    1st teamC: S. Aho, E. Malkin, W. Karllson, B. Nelson
    LW: B. Marchand, A. Ovechkin, J. Zucker, N. Niederreiter, A. Svechnikov,

    RW: D. Perron, J. Kyrou, C. Keller, D. Strome, T. Toffoli, C. Perfetti,
    D: j. Carlson, D. Hamilton, R. Andersson, F. Hronek,J. Spurgeon
    G: , C. Hellybuck, J. Ottinger, A. Vasilevskiy

    2nd team
    C: E. Lindholm, J. Pavelski, JT Miller, R. Johansen, A. Killorn, B. Jenner(IR)

    LW: , B. Marchand, A. Mangiapane, T. Toffoli, J. Gaudreau

    RW: P. Kane, Pasta, D. Perron, T. Wilson, N. Schmaltz, M. Tkackuk
    D: J. Carlson, A. Pietriangelo, C. McAvoy, N. Schmidt, J. Trouba, J. Morrissey
    G: J. Markstrom, C. Hellybuyck, T. Jarry

  7. #7
    Rep Power
    0

    The Great One

    Default Re: Just want some thoughts on this proposal...

    I think youre really skewing the Hellboy/Vas side of this. Considering this years results and the one year deal- I think Helle is a rather alarming own all of a sudden. Vas struggled to- but at least had some dominant stretches in there as opposed to being consistently inconsistent. Also all signs are still pointing to Vasilevskiy being given a real shot with a long leash. Not only do I not think Helle gets the edge- the goalie values kill this whole deal for me. I own Vas and would npt consider anything that started with Helle as the goalie coming back- just saying.

    If you could do it without the goalies Id still do it. If you get that with the goalie swap its a homerun- but Id be prepared to accept a baffled response as I think 90% of owners will not understand your valuation of those goalies...

  8. #8
    Atomic Wedgy's Avatar
    Atomic Wedgy is offline
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    7,105
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Master

    Default Re: Just want some thoughts on this proposal...

    Good deal for you. I see it as you getting three upgrades. I don't see the upside for the other guy at all.

  9. #9
    knoble's Avatar
    knoble is offline
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    592
    Rep Power
    9

    Dobber Sports Apprentice

    Default Re: Just want some thoughts on this proposal...

    Well, his biggest concern is Larkin in the deal. He has asked if there is someone else I could put in instead. I have been trying to hold steady and play up how good Krug is. If I had to swap in Okposo instead of Larkin, would the deal still be worth it to me?
    1st teamC: S. Aho, E. Malkin, W. Karllson, B. Nelson
    LW: B. Marchand, A. Ovechkin, J. Zucker, N. Niederreiter, A. Svechnikov,

    RW: D. Perron, J. Kyrou, C. Keller, D. Strome, T. Toffoli, C. Perfetti,
    D: j. Carlson, D. Hamilton, R. Andersson, F. Hronek,J. Spurgeon
    G: , C. Hellybuck, J. Ottinger, A. Vasilevskiy

    2nd team
    C: E. Lindholm, J. Pavelski, JT Miller, R. Johansen, A. Killorn, B. Jenner(IR)

    LW: , B. Marchand, A. Mangiapane, T. Toffoli, J. Gaudreau

    RW: P. Kane, Pasta, D. Perron, T. Wilson, N. Schmaltz, M. Tkackuk
    D: J. Carlson, A. Pietriangelo, C. McAvoy, N. Schmidt, J. Trouba, J. Morrissey
    G: J. Markstrom, C. Hellybuyck, T. Jarry

  10. #10
    Location
    Nova Scotia
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Deity

    Default Re: Just want some thoughts on this proposal...

    Quote Originally Posted by knoble View Post
    Well, his biggest concern is Larkin in the deal. He has asked if there is someone else I could put in instead. I have been trying to hold steady and play up how good Krug is. If I had to swap in Okposo instead of Larkin, would the deal still be worth it to me?
    I dont blame him. Larkin should be the biggest concern.

    I dont see this as as much of a win for you with Okposo in there, but I'd still do the deal.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


    "Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."

  11. #11
    knoble's Avatar
    knoble is offline
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    592
    Rep Power
    9

    Dobber Sports Apprentice

    Default Re: Just want some thoughts on this proposal...

    That was my thought as well which is why Iam pushing to keep Larkin in there.
    1st teamC: S. Aho, E. Malkin, W. Karllson, B. Nelson
    LW: B. Marchand, A. Ovechkin, J. Zucker, N. Niederreiter, A. Svechnikov,

    RW: D. Perron, J. Kyrou, C. Keller, D. Strome, T. Toffoli, C. Perfetti,
    D: j. Carlson, D. Hamilton, R. Andersson, F. Hronek,J. Spurgeon
    G: , C. Hellybuck, J. Ottinger, A. Vasilevskiy

    2nd team
    C: E. Lindholm, J. Pavelski, JT Miller, R. Johansen, A. Killorn, B. Jenner(IR)

    LW: , B. Marchand, A. Mangiapane, T. Toffoli, J. Gaudreau

    RW: P. Kane, Pasta, D. Perron, T. Wilson, N. Schmaltz, M. Tkackuk
    D: J. Carlson, A. Pietriangelo, C. McAvoy, N. Schmidt, J. Trouba, J. Morrissey
    G: J. Markstrom, C. Hellybuyck, T. Jarry

  12. #12
    DAAKS's Avatar
    DAAKS is offline
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    306
    Location
    Vancouver
    Rep Power
    10

    Dobber Sports Blue-Chipper

    Default Re: Just want some thoughts on this proposal...

    If the other GM is big on Doughty could you not take the D out of the deal and just do Larkin, Helly for Reinhart, Vas? If so that's a big win for you.
    12 team Keeper League.
    25 man roster, 5 man bench, 2 prospects, keep 9. Must ice 4D, 1 Goalie
    Skaters 1pt G/A,
    Goalies .05pts per save, 1pts SO, .75pts per win -.25 for GA

    Forwards
    Crosby, Malkin, Seguin, Eichel, Backstrom, Svechnikov, Stone, Meier, Perron, Voracek, Wilson, Pearson, Vrana, E. Stall, Pajeau

    Defence
    Hedman, Klingberg, Letang, Yandle

    Goalie
    Bobrovsky

    Bench
    Ritchie (G), Zucker, Guentzel, Neal, Ekblad (D)


    Prospects
    Zegras, Kaprisov

  13. #13
    knoble's Avatar
    knoble is offline
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    592
    Rep Power
    9

    Dobber Sports Apprentice

    Default Re: Just want some thoughts on this proposal...

    He actually hasn't questioned doughty at all. His main target has been Krug so I added doughty to cover my defence loss a bit.
    1st teamC: S. Aho, E. Malkin, W. Karllson, B. Nelson
    LW: B. Marchand, A. Ovechkin, J. Zucker, N. Niederreiter, A. Svechnikov,

    RW: D. Perron, J. Kyrou, C. Keller, D. Strome, T. Toffoli, C. Perfetti,
    D: j. Carlson, D. Hamilton, R. Andersson, F. Hronek,J. Spurgeon
    G: , C. Hellybuck, J. Ottinger, A. Vasilevskiy

    2nd team
    C: E. Lindholm, J. Pavelski, JT Miller, R. Johansen, A. Killorn, B. Jenner(IR)

    LW: , B. Marchand, A. Mangiapane, T. Toffoli, J. Gaudreau

    RW: P. Kane, Pasta, D. Perron, T. Wilson, N. Schmaltz, M. Tkackuk
    D: J. Carlson, A. Pietriangelo, C. McAvoy, N. Schmidt, J. Trouba, J. Morrissey
    G: J. Markstrom, C. Hellybuyck, T. Jarry

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •