Crosby for Hedman?

[Wonko]

Literally every athlete is 1 hit away from retirement. The amount of research that has been done into this is extensive. Sid is at no more risk than Ivan Lodnia. Perception just doesn't paint it that way.

Maybe I am wrong, but here is some of the stuff I have read on concussion in sport.

http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercis...risk-of-more#1

[cheese_cake]

If Hedman was to maintain his production from last year, I could be on board for Crosby + pick for Hedman. Crosby has the name value + consistent top fantasy production, whereas Hedman has positional advantage (because top D are scarce) + one solid fantasy output. I too believe Hedman won't match his output from last year, so I would decline.

Hedman is a sell high right now, while Crosby has the same super high value. I wouldn't do the trade.

[Wonko]

I agree we likely see a small regression from Hedman, but I highly doubt they remove him from the top PP after how well he ran it last season.

They will find a way to integrate both Hedman and Stamkos into the top unit.

[rataylor22]

Maybe I am wrong, but here is some of the stuff I have read on concussion in sport.

http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercis...risk-of-more#1

That 15 year old concussion research lol

[Wonko]

That 15 year old concussion research lol

Like I said, maybe I am wrong. No need to be condescending. Perhaps new info has come to light about concussions. I am not going to start combing the internet but I will look into it in my free time. Maybe instead of laughing at my example from web MD you provide a few links to some of this new research.

[rataylor22]

Are you theoretically more susceptible to sustain a concussion after you've had your first one? Yes.

Is that next concussion more likely to end your career than a player's first one? No.

Is it condescending to point out that web MD is a the wikipedia of medicine and not a reliable source for information compared to medical papers? No.

Is it condescending to point out how much has changed in medicine, technology, knowledge, etc, etc, etc. in the last 15 years? Also no.

[Wonko]

Are you theoretically more susceptible to sustain a concussion after you've had your first one? Yes.

Is that next concussion more likely to end your career than a player's first one? No.

Is it condescending to point out that web MD is a the wikipedia of medicine and not a reliable source for information compared to medical papers? No.

Is it condescending to point out how much has changed in medicine, technology, knowledge, etc, etc, etc. in the last 15 years? Also no.

When a person uses 'lol' in reference to another persons opinion it is definitely condescending and rude. Especially when they preface that opinion with, "I may be wrong, but.." Not sure why you are being such an ass over such a trivial chat room conversation, but you are definitely being an ass.

[Referee3083]

Are you theoretically more susceptible to sustain a concussion after you've had your first one? Yes.

Is that next concussion more likely to end your career than a player's first one? No.
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I'm not looking to pick a fight, but question #1 isn't theoretical. Sustaining one concussion makes you more susceptible to sustain another. Based on that, the answer to question 2 is yes as well. If you're more likely to get a concussion, it's more likely that you'll suffer a career ending one / it will take less severe of a hit to end your career than someone else.

[rataylor22]

I'm not looking to pick a fight, but question #1 isn't theoretical. Sustaining one concussion makes you more susceptible to sustain another. Based on that, the answer to question 2 is yes as well. If you're more likely to get a concussion, it's more likely that you'll suffer a career ending one / it will take less severe of a hit to end your career than someone else.

Scientifically, we can assume every person's body is the same then? Or would that be a general rule, in which after the general rule you have to assess on a case by case basis because each individual's genetic makeup is unique? I like how we can speak son matter of factly on something we legitimately cannot prove. That's fun.

[Mr. Guru]

Crosby for Hedman?

Never.

[Mr. Guru]

Hedman regresses obviously.

You can't even sell him as a sell high because everyone knows he's regressing.

[Referee3083]

Scientifically, we can assume every person's body is the same then? Or would that be a general rule, in which after the general rule you have to assess on a case by case basis because each individual's genetic makeup is unique? I like how we can speak son matter of factly on something we legitimately cannot prove. That's fun.

No, you're absolutely right that every person's body is not the same and a concussion (or any injury for that matter) will impact ever person differently). I'm sure there are people on both ends of the spectrum in terms of sensitivity to getting a concussion. Concussion science is still in its infancy, I'll agree on that too. But there has been enough research to say that in general (acknowledging there are always exceptions to the norm) the impact of concussions is highly likely to be cumulative (see any CTE research) and each concussion you have makes it easier to have another one. I can attest to this first hand. Am I the norm or the exception, that I don't know. But I've seen enough of some of the US's leading concussion experts to know my story is very very common.

Marc Savard is a good example. The Matt Cooke hit did not end his career, the Matt Hunwick one the next season did. In my opinion, when looking at the videos, the Cooke hit was far more severe in terms of impact. A lot of players who never had a concussion would have gotten right up from the Hunwick hit. But Savard already suffered a significant head injury and therefore a less forceful blow to the head had a greater impact ended his career.

Who knows where Crosby is on the spectrum of sensitivity to concussions. But I believe there's enough research out there to say that it is likely that it won't take as severe of a hit for Crosbys career to end, and even if not career ending, a hit to Crosby's head will have a greater effect then someone who's never had one, given his history.