Reply With QuoteI would keep Price over Talbot.
I also think Wheeler is valuable in your format especially with Hits....
Why don't you put Talbot on the block and see what you could get?
Move Price for a Top 10 FWD?
Hey gang, looking for some early pre-draft opinions. We recently switched up our pool and dropped from 12 keepers to 6. We get to keep 3 forwards, 2 defence and 1 goalie from our old teams. We've also switched to an auction draft and waivers to there's a lot of new stuff happening. We get one trade before the draft. So here's the conundrum. The guys I'm keeping from my old team are Tavares, Seguin, Wheeler, Weber, Byfuglien, and Price. Not bad. Problem is I also have Cam Talbot. Price and Talbot had pretty similar numbers last season and as much as I love him I'd be willing to move Price to make a significant improvement on Wheeler (who I'm also a fan of, especially with our new HITS cat). I reached out to the owner of Nikita Kucherov and he's interested in a swap for Price. So I guess the question is, do I do something like this? I'll get nothing if I drop Talbot back into the draft but I suspect I can get Wheeler for a reasonable price and get significantly younger in getting Kucherov. I'm also not convinced the Habs have improved much. I know I saw some Talbot/Price threads a while back and opinions seemed split...hoping my situation helps clarify. What say you?
Re: Move Price for a Top 10 FWD?
I would keep Price over Talbot.
I also think Wheeler is valuable in your format especially with Hits....
Why don't you put Talbot on the block and see what you could get?
12 teams dynasty, Points only ( G and A = 1pt)
F: McDavid (12.5M), Kucherov (9.5M), Boldy (7M), Kyrou (8.13M), J. Norris (7.95M), Zegras (5.95M), Kuzmenko (5.5M), Reichel (0.925M), P. Kane (2.75M), Lundell (0.925M), Rasmussen (1.46M), Rossi (0.86M).
D: Korchinski (0.925M), Byram (3.85M), Burns (5.28M).
G: Kochetkov (2M), Shesterkin (5,670M).
Bench: E. Karlsson (10M), Lucius (0.925M), Edvinsson (0.89M), Askarov (0.925M), Quinn (0.86M), Berggren (0.925M), Stankoven (0.81M), Knight (4.5M), Mitchkov (TBD), Athanasiou (4.25M), Samsonov (3.55M), Klingberg (4.15M).
Re: Move Price for a Top 10 FWD?
Would you trade Price/Wheeler for Talbot/Kucherov? With Ws and SV% as being the only goalie stats, I do make the trade. It is close but the high volume of shots and higher GAA% would not hurt Talbot. I see the Kucherov over Wheeler and Price and Talbot close with these settings.
10 Team, 60 Player Roster
G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson, Danualt
RW- Raymond, Stone, TWilson, Toffoli, KJohnson, Nyqvist, Zary
LW- Keller, Schmaltz, Bunting, Skinner, Barbashev, Duclair
D- QHughes, McAvoy, Doughty, Heiskanen, LHughes, Mintyukov
G- Shesterkin, Demko, Andersen, Kahkonen, Levi, Tarasov, Annunen
Notable Prospects- Nikishin, Kulich, Leonard, Wood, Perreault, Lekkermaki, Ostlund, Othmman, REvans, L-Heureux, Ivanov, Murashov
Re: Move Price for a Top 10 FWD?
I actually clarified a bit. We're allowed ONE trade before our draft and I highly doubt I'd be able to get a player the calibre of Kucherov with Talbot. I'm totally fine with keeping Price/Wheeler and dropping Talbot into the draft. If nothing else, he'll suck up some serious money from someones draft wallet. I'm really just curious if it's worth the sorta downgrade from Price to Talbot to snag a decent upgrade over Wheeler.
Re: Move Price for a Top 10 FWD?
This is kind of how I see it. I don't think Talbot is worse than Price with these cats (given he's about as good as last year). Kucherov seems like a better bet over Wheeler for the next three years IMO and there's a good possibility I can get Wheeler back in the draft (he's criminally underrated in our pool).Originally Posted by Daydream Nation
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I don't think there is a wrong choice in moving/keeping Price or Talbot. You have to lose one anyway. ?\_(ツ)_/? There has to be another team in the league that has 4 awesome forwards and 'meh' goaltending. That is the GM you want to target.
Who else do you have right now that are fringe keepers?
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Re: Move Price for a Top 10 FWD?
Not any options better than Wheeler (IMO)...Voracek, JvR, Atkinson, Skinner, Zuccarello. I kind of targeted Kucherov based on his age and apparent awesomeness. The guy with him is keeping Andersen (over Lundqvist) and is monster Habs fan. None of the other teams have terrible goaltending + awesome forwards though. The closest would be the team keeping Ben Bishop...he has Malkin and Crosby.
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I'm a big Kucherov fan and am not as optimistic with Price's team as I am with Talbot in Edmonton...I would do this trade.
Yahoo:16 team h2h (18 man rosters) 4keepers per team
player cats:G,A,+/-ppp,shp,sog,gwg,hits,blks :goalie cats:W,gaa,sv%,so
3c-Zibanejad, Getzlaf, Trochek
6w-Fiala, JT Miller,Pastrnak, Pearson, kapanen, Lindblom
4d-Hamilton,Provorov, R.Andersson, Doughty
2g-Markstrom, Blackwood
bench-Schultz, McCann, Lowry
IR:Kucherov, Beauvilier
Fantrax:Nordiques 9 team dynasty pts only (max roster:50)
notables:Stamkos, Seguin, Kuznetsov, E.Lindholm, Debrincat, Wheeler, Marchand, PLD, Kessel, Meier, Tuch, Hedman, Suter, Chabot, Bobrovsky ,Hellebuyck, Binnington
notable prospects:Turcotte, Zegras, N.Suzuki, Farabee, Denisenko, Krebs, N.Robertson, Jokiharju, Shestyorkin
Re: Move Price for a Top 10 FWD?
I would take Kucherov/Talbot over price/wheeler. I think the difference from Kucher to wheeler is pretty decent. Price to Talbot I see as more equal. Edmonton is only going to get better.
12 team, H2H points, limited keepers
allowed 6 keeper players(PLAYER DRAFTED IN RDS 1-8 NOT ABLE TO BE KEEPER)
Daily starts
16 man roster plus 1 IR
start 6 forwards,4 d, 2 goalies
pts: G=3, A=2, DA=3, DG=5, +/-=1 GWG=1, OTG=2, OTA=1, PPG=2, PPA=1, SHG=3, SHA=1, HT=3, SHOOTOUT GOAL=1
BLKS=.25, HITS=.25, MAJ=2
Goalie pts: WINS=5, SAVES=.20, GA=-1, SO=3
SHOG SAVE=.50, SHOL=2
forwards: M.TKACHUK(k),MARCHAND(k),SCHEIFELE(k)
BENN, GAUDREAU*, COUTURIER*
d: M.RIELLY(k), JOSI*, MCAVOY*, ELLIS
goalies :TALBOT* DEMKO MAF
(k)=keeper
*= no keeper eligibility
bencH: KOPITAR* R. GRAVES ROBERTSON KREJCI
IR E.PETTERSSON(k)
Re: Move Price for a Top 10 FWD?
I would actually trade Price for Kucherov given your situation, keep Talbot and drop Wheeler.
With Wheeler coming up on 31 years of age, less teams will be willing to go after him, even in this setup. Personally I think Wheeler is still a beast in this setup but I would take Kucherov at this point.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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Re: Move Price for a Top 10 FWD?
In a 12 team, keep 1 goalie league, it's tougher to find someone willing to take on a goalie. If you can get someone like Kucherov, then I say do it. Moving Price will get you the bigger return vs value, so I think that's the route to take.
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Re: Move Price for a Top 10 FWD?
I'll take the Kucherov/Talbot side.. especially with your league settings
12 Team H2H Keep 6
Scoring Cats - Players: G, A, P, +/-, PPG, SHG, GWG
Goalies: W, GAA, SV%, SHO
Start 2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1G (locked in for the week)
C: Malkin, Kuznetsov, Larkin, Couture
LW: Hall, DeBrincat, Fiala
RW: Kucherov, J.T. Miller
D: Theodore, Gustafsson, Pulock
G: Hellebuyck, Shesterkin
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Thanks for the feedback guys...very helpful.
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