Jones and Letang ++ for Talbot and Josi

[DAAKS]

Hey guys, I'm looking for opinions on an offer I just made for my 11 team 15 keeper league in sig.

I offered my Jones, Letang, McDonagh and his choice of (Spezza, Stepan, Kesler or Neal)

for

His Talbot and Josi, plus any 2 players which I wouldn't keep.

My question is do you think Talbot and Josi are significant enough upgrades over Jones and Letang to justify this trade?

McDonagh isn't a Keeper for me and I can only keep one of the FWDS mentioned above.

I feel I would be getting the 2 best players in the deal. All four players going his way would be keepers for him.

Did I make a fair offer? Too much, too little. Opinions please!

[CHunter]

I don't see an upgrade from Jones to Talbot....this is a sideway move imo....

Also think you give to much for Josi....

Not a fan of this offer at all....

[Eskimo Brother]

Agreed. You're giving too much here. The base of the offer is fine, especially if you want to move away from Letang, but even Jones/Letang for Josi/Talbot is pretty close.

[DAAKS]

In our league setup, Talbot scored 74 points compared to Jones at 52.44 points and yes moving away from Letang and is injuries is a factor for me.
He rejected my offer and countered with Rask instead of Talbot and asked for Stepan as the (pick 1 fwd). I told him Talbot had to be included in the deal.
I agree my offer is an over payment but I justify it due to the fact that I can only keep 1 of those fwds or McDonagh.
Do you guys think Talbot will take step back or Jones will improve on last years average performance?

[Eskimo Brother]

If that's the cost then just hold what you have. Talbot likely won't start as much, limiting his value an little for you. Jones should also be a little better, but probably still in the 50s for points for you.

I'm okay with selling Letang, but don't give him away.

[DAAKS]

EK, would you do Letang for Josi straight up? Letangs injuries cost me 2nd place and the playoffs last year.

[Eskimo Brother]

Going to assume that was supposed to say EB, and you were asking me.

Depending on the league and the rest of my team, I would. Then again Josi is my favourite player, so there's a bit of a bias.

Realistically, you get 80% of a healthy Letang from Josi. If Letang plays 80 games, then you want him. If it's 65, it's a wash, if it's less, you want Josi. With Letang coming off the off-season surgery, we don't know where he's even going to be to start the season, so I have to advise going the safer route with Josi.

[DAAKS]

Ahh.. Sorry it was meant for you EB. Thanks for the reply.

[Wonko]

Going to assume that was supposed to say EB, and you were asking me.

Depending on the league and the rest of my team, I would. Then again Josi is my favourite player, so there's a bit of a bias.

Realistically, you get 80% of a healthy Letang from Josi. If Letang plays 80 games, then you want him. If it's 65, it's a wash, if it's less, you want Josi. With Letang coming off the off-season surgery, we don't know where he's even going to be to start the season, so I have to advise going the safer route with Josi.

I think EB nailed it with this answer. I am in total agreement.

[als_revenge]

I'm fine with the original offer (since the add ons are drops anyways). But I wouldn't do Rask instead of Talbot.

I'd also have no issues doing Letang for Josi straight up if you don't have the stomach for Letang. I've seen Letang be sold for a lot lower than that.

[Pens71]

I would do this deal. SJ is going to be a sinking ship soon. Letang is made of tissue paper. If you can't keep the other players in the deal, yeah do it.

[DAAKS]

He won't move Talbot, but has agreed to Josi for Letang and McDonagh. I'm thinking of accepting since I can't keep McDonagh anyways. Before I accept are there any other D outside of Karlsson or Burns that you guys think I should target ahead of Josi? (PK, Shattenkirk, Ghost?)

[Eskimo Brother]

Hedman is the only one that comes to mind, but that middle tier is very tightly packed.

[DAAKS]

I already have Hedman and Klingberg!

I pulled the trigger and traded Letang and McDonagh for Josi and Brassard. I'm happy with the deal!

[Eskimo Brother]

I already have Hedman and Klingberg!

I pulled the trigger and traded Letang and McDonagh for Josi and Brassard. I'm happy with the deal!

If that's the case then it looks good!