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    Who finishes with most points next year boys? I am in a keeper league (points only) and I own kessel. Got an offer for Hall. Thoughts?

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    Default Re: Hall vs Kessel

    For next year, I have Hall in the 50-60 point range, and Kessel in the 60-70 point range.

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    Hall is the #1 offensive engine on at team surrounded by young up and comers. Kessel is #4 or 5 on the Pengs.

    Hall is the home run pick IMO but comes with risk. But 2#1 overalls uniting... I like Hall/Hisch combo to light it up.
    Team:
    2xC - Tavares, Matthews, Getzlaf, E. Staal, Namestnikov(C/LW)
    2xL - Hall, Skinner, Lucic, Landeskog, Kilorn
    2xR - Kucherov, Marner (RW/C), Laine, M.Stone
    4xD - Karlsson, OEL, Josi, Yandle, A. Martinez, M. Green, Strallman
    2xG - Crawford, Jones, Dell, Budaj
    2xUtil - Getzlaf, Laine (RW)
    12 Team Keeper league with Yahoo

    Roster (14 Kept Players): 2C,2LW,2RW,4D,2G,2Util (Can keep a 3rd G with Util)
    SEASON SCORING: 3C,3LW,3RW,5D,1U,2G
    (Weighted Category Points: see below).

    Skaters -
    (Points: G a/o A) 6
    (+/-) 3
    (PIM) 1
    (PPP) 5
    (GWG) 5

    Goaltenders
    Wins 5
    Goals against -9
    Saves 1
    Shutout 10

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    I think Kessel outpoints Hall but not by much....let's say 5-10 points max....in a keeper, I would gamble with Hall....I also like the direction where NJ are heading.....interesting adds this summer for them....


    11-teams Keeper pool, points only (dynasty)
    12F, 3D, 2G
    Salary cap (player salaries): 75M Actual: 70.338M
    Skaters: G=1, A=1, Goalies: W=2, OTL=1, SO=3


    F: J. Gaudreau (6.75M), N. Kucherov (4.766M), E. Kuznetsov (7.8M), T.J. Oshie (5.75M), P. Bergeron (6.875M), M. Marner (0.894M), D. Stepan (6.5M), N. Schmaltz (0.925M), F. Forsberg (6M), M. Barzal (0.863M), T. Meier (0.894M), B. Point (0.687M),

    D: O. Ekman-Larsson (5.5M), J. Schultz (5.5M), J. Faulk (4.833M).

    G: J. Gibson (2.3M), A. Vasilievsky (3.5M).

    Bench: C. Hellebuyck (2.25M), M. Sergachev (0.894M), A. Nylander (0.894M), B. Ritchie (1.75M), B. Montour (0.925M)

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    Kessel stays healthy and has outscored Hall nearly every season. Not nearly enough potential upside to risk it.

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    Kessel, for a career average, is a low 60 pt guy when we look at ppg. Taylor Hall, for a career average, is also a low 60 pt guy when we look at ppg.

    In a keeper, I'll take Hall.


    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, JaBenn, Couture, Wheeler, Lee, Turris, Letang, Kucherov, Byfuglien, Burns, Zuccarello, Hoffman, JSchwartz, KPalmieri, KConnor, Konecny, Bjorkstrand, Point, KHayes, OEL, Vrana, NSchmaltz

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    Keeper: Hall - Good upside compared to Kessel going ? before too long due to cap
    Next year only: Kessel - PIT is still miles ahead of NJ right now, Kessel is a big part of that
    10 Team H2H Keeper League;
    23 player roster, 17 Keepers, 10 player farm team;
    2C, 2RW, 2LW, 4D, 1Skater, 2G
    Goals, Assists, Points, Shots, +/-, PPP, SHP, Wins, GAA, SV%, SO

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    If this is a keeper where either guy would be a ptotect thn this isnt even close- Hall. Careers emerge different ways and I onestly believe nthe next few years will define Hall- as a terrifying tandem with Hischier. Kessels on the downward slope- Halls about to do things weve never seen him do before...
    14 team cap league (30 mil above nhl)
    Daily Changes- 3c 3rw 3lw 3 forward flex 5d 2g 8bn ir+
    Weekly hth - g a p ppp shp pim sog +/- gwg - w sv% so gaa saves
    27 man farm team - no cap - junior team can hold prospects to up till 3 years
    C Mathews Kadri E Lindholm
    Rw Toffoli Perry Neal
    Lw Forberg Hall Skinner
    Flex Perron E Kane Dadanov
    D Weber OEL Klef-Bomb Krug Zaitsev
    G Andersen Smith
    BN Camal Jokinen Hartnell Lehkonen Hartman Lack Saros Reimer
    Notable prospects and farm- Owen Tippett, Bjugstad Miller A Nylander Kempe Faksa Hayden H Fleury
    Cap 101.1 out of 105

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    Kessel will finish with more points this season but I'd make the deal for Hall given it's a keeper league. Hall should match Kessel's production once NJ adds more pieces.
    13 team Rotisserie league (No positional requirements: 5 Keepers + 1 Rookie). Weekly starts. No waiver wire pick-ups.
    Active Roster consists of: 6 FW, 4 D, 2 G and 6 Bench.

    Roster:
    FW: Eichel, Forsberg, Hall, Atkinson, Pacioretty, Lucic
    D: Doughty​,​ Gudas​, Larsson, Muzzin
    G: Holtby​,​ Varlamov
    Bench: Trocheck, N Ritchie, J Manson, Forbort, Bernier, Grubauer
    Farm: Keller, Boeser
    Skaters: G, A, PIM, +/-, HT, BS, SOG
    Goalies: W, (.5)SO, (.5)SV


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    Scoring totals and injury history favour Kessel, while Hall's four years younger and has similar PPG. Smart move for the next 2 years or so is probably Kessel, really, although my gut would go with Hall for some reason I can't back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomscrub23 View Post
    Scoring totals and injury history favour Kessel, while Hall's four years younger and has similar PPG. Smart move for the next 2 years or so is probably Kessel, really, although my gut would go with Hall for some reason I can't back up.
    Its because his ppg if healthy/upside/ and likelihood of developing chemistery with at least one elite player are intriguing af.

    Kessel is what he is- and nothing to sneeze at- but ddddaaaaayyyyyyuuuuummmmm- dat upside on Hall be cazy yo!!

    I also ove that hes a sog beast- the main stat I look at in a player.....
    14 team cap league (30 mil above nhl)
    Daily Changes- 3c 3rw 3lw 3 forward flex 5d 2g 8bn ir+
    Weekly hth - g a p ppp shp pim sog +/- gwg - w sv% so gaa saves
    27 man farm team - no cap - junior team can hold prospects to up till 3 years
    C Mathews Kadri E Lindholm
    Rw Toffoli Perry Neal
    Lw Forberg Hall Skinner
    Flex Perron E Kane Dadanov
    D Weber OEL Klef-Bomb Krug Zaitsev
    G Andersen Smith
    BN Camal Jokinen Hartnell Lehkonen Hartman Lack Saros Reimer
    Notable prospects and farm- Owen Tippett, Bjugstad Miller A Nylander Kempe Faksa Hayden H Fleury
    Cap 101.1 out of 105

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    Kessel is about lose most of his fantasy value in the fall when he turns 30 yrs old. Everyone knows once your age starts with a 3, your fantasy value turns to mush. The fantasy kiss of death.


    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, JaBenn, Couture, Wheeler, Lee, Turris, Letang, Kucherov, Byfuglien, Burns, Zuccarello, Hoffman, JSchwartz, KPalmieri, KConnor, Konecny, Bjorkstrand, Point, KHayes, OEL, Vrana, NSchmaltz

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