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    Hi there,

    We are starting our new keeper league and it is a very simple one. Skaters scores by pts only

    So we don't want every goalie to be worth a McDavid our a Crosby

    We are gonna use Fantrax, but there is so many possibilities to accumulate goalies pts and I don't really understand them.

    We also want a good goalie in a bad team to be a reasonnable choice

    We wanted something like 1pt for a win and something else with sv% and/or gaa

    Anyone here can help use how to set our goalie scoring with exemples?

    Thanks a lot!!

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    If it's pts only, what I do in one of my leagues is this:

    4 for a W
    .1 for a SV
    -.3 for a goal against
    2 for a SO

    That means that a goalie who wins and has a good game does the best.
    A goalie with a good game but loses, and a goalie with a bad game and a win, both do fairly well.
    A goalie with a bad game and loses does pretty poorly. Especially if they get pulled.

    12 team H2H Most Cats Wins; Keep 6/winner keeps 7; G A PPP +/- SHP SOG HIT BLK PIM // W SV GAA SV% SHO
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 6D, 2G, 5 bench

    C - McDavid, Crosby, Tavares
    LW - DeBrincat
    RW - Meier, Miller
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    For me, an NHL goalie should have a .909sv% or better.
    Anything below that is crap... and shouldn't be awarding (positive) points for less.

    Simple math:
    SV = 0.1pts
    GAA = -1pts
    W = 2pt
    OTL = 1pt

    10sv counters 1 gaa.
    A goalie that saves 10/11 (.909sv%) scores you 0.00pts. (10x0.1 - 1.0).

    And... it's a simple scoring amounts.
    Your goalies should be your BASE scoring.
    We use those amounts (in WHL 24-team league) and the top goalies get 130-150pts per year.

    For skaters, you should play with that as you want to raise them above goalies.
    G=1, A=1 will put McDavid at 100pts.
    Then you give weights for things like PPP or SOG to get him up where you want him relative to Holtby/Price.

    But use simple scoring so everybody gets player value intrinsically.


    If you are insistent on keeping skaters only to points... with McDavid at 100pts, then I'd recommend this.
    SV = 0.1
    GAA = -1
    W = 1.5
    OTL = 0.5

    The gold standard of goalies in recent years is Braden Holtby.
    https://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/4588/
    1563sv = 156.3pts
    127gaa = -127pts
    42w = 63pts
    6otl = 3pts
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    95.3pts (on +29pts from SV/GAA... 66pts for W/OTL)

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    Thx guys!
    I should try this with more goalies to see if the scores varies enough.

    We really do want to stay with pts only for skaters for now. We may change our minds after a year of two

    Is there any more thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmorrow View Post
    If it's pts only, what I do in one of my leagues is this:

    4 for a W
    .1 for a SV
    -.3 for a goal against
    2 for a SO

    That means that a goalie who wins and has a good game does the best.
    A goalie with a good game but loses, and a goalie with a bad game and a win, both do fairly well.
    A goalie with a bad game and loses does pretty poorly. Especially if they get pulled.


    It brings Holty last year at 298 pts...!!!

    is it me?

    Pengwin7 method is nice. I tried it on excel:

    names wins Overtime loss Goal against Saves pool pts
    Braden Holtby 42 6 127 1563 95,3
    C. Talbot 42 8 171 1946 90,6
    Sergei Bobrovski 41 5 127 1727 109,7
    Devan Dubnyk 40 5 141 1701 91,6
    C. Price 37 5 138 1656 85,6
    Tukka Rask 37 5 137 1473 68,3
    M. Jones 35 6 152 1573 60,8
    F. Andersen 33 14 169 1883 75,8
    J. Allen 33 5 138 1482 62,2
    C. Crawford 32 4 138 1553 67,3
    M. Murray 32 4 111 1339 72,9





    The problem I see with this is that toe goalies will determine the winner of the pool everytime, cause the ie a big diffenrence of pts between the 5 best goalies...

    Still trying to find something a bit more balance!

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    Default Re: Goalie scoring based on sv% and GAA?

    and hey, what's the equation when you calculate points with the sv%?

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    If you really want a points only pool, and not to have it skewed by the top 5 goalies, the easiest thing to do is just not have goalies in your pool. Penguin knows his stuff, you are going to have a very hard time finding a way to balance out the goalies, without having a big spread. I'd recommend just keeping it simple: no goalies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argoras View Post
    It brings Holty last year at 298 pts...!!!

    is it me?

    Pengwin7 method is nice. I tried it on excel:

    names wins Overtime loss Goal against Saves pool pts
    Braden Holtby 42 6 127 1563 95,3
    C. Talbot 42 8 171 1946 90,6
    Sergei Bobrovski 41 5 127 1727 109,7
    Devan Dubnyk 40 5 141 1701 91,6
    C. Price 37 5 138 1656 85,6
    Tukka Rask 37 5 137 1473 68,3
    M. Jones 35 6 152 1573 60,8
    F. Andersen 33 14 169 1883 75,8
    J. Allen 33 5 138 1482 62,2
    C. Crawford 32 4 138 1553 67,3
    M. Murray 32 4 111 1339 72,9





    The problem I see with this is that toe goalies will determine the winner of the pool everytime, cause the ie a big diffenrence of pts between the 5 best goalies...

    Still trying to find something a bit more balance!
    I like this method. Never liked goalies being worth as much as the top 5 skaters. I'm in a pts league where we just have it as (win=1pt) (so=1pt)

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    Default Re: Goalie scoring based on sv% and GAA?

    And what about the equation to calculate pts what sv%?

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    Default Re: Goalie scoring based on sv% and GAA?

    to give goalies on mediocre teams value dont penalize losses in h2h fp's setups and give points for wins,ot or shoot out losses and saves .

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    I'm sorry, but being new to all this, I tried but fail to find a meaning to this abbreviation (h2h fp's setups)

    loll hope you won't mind me asking what it stands for!

    thanks a lot to you all guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argoras View Post
    I'm sorry, but being new to all this, I tried but fail to find a meaning to this abbreviation (h2h fp's setups)

    loll hope you won't mind me asking what it stands for!

    thanks a lot to you all guys!
    h2h fp's = head to head fantasy points .

    skaters and goalies receive X amount of points depending on the scoring formula you come up with .

    a simple example would be skaters receive 2 fp for goals , 1 for assists ---goalies receive 2 points for a win , 3 for a shutout and .5 for a ot/so loss

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