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    Since you're basically asking who's going to get the most wins, not who will be the best goalie, that devalues guys like Price, who the Habs have already said will be playing around 60 games, and will probably never approach 65 ever again.
    1. Holtby
    2. Talbot
    3. Allen
    4. F Anderssen
    5.Bishop
    6. Jones
    7.Price
    8.Quick
    9.Rask
    10.Crawford
    11. Bobrovsky
    12. Lundqvist
    13.Vasilevskiy
    14. Darling
    15. Murray
    16. Dubnyk

    This basically boils down to which teams do you think will well next year. I expect major regression from Minnesota, and considering how good the Metro is, probably Columbus as well (plus factoring in the injury concerns with Bob). I think Allen reaches 40 wins this season, and Anderssen should be better than last year, assuming he doesn't get off to such a bad start like last season. Murray still hasn't played a full season, so I'm tempering regular season expectations for him. Vasilevskiy will be great, but I can't see the Bolts giving him such a huge workload in his first season as a starter - I think they trust Budaj to step in for a decent amount of games. Darling could be the next Talbot, but Talbot himself didn't start a huge number of games in his first season as a starter, only in his second season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntMan12 View Post
    Who would you say are the top 5 goalies in the league for next season? Here are the cats

    Win = 2 pts
    OTL = 1 pt
    SO = 1 pt

    Here is my top 5. I'd like to hear your guys thoughts on this as well. Thanks

    Braden Holtby (WAS)
    Cam Talbot (EDM)
    Devan Dubnyk (MIN)
    Carey Price (MTL)
    Andrei Vasilevsky (TB)
    Sergei Bobrovsky (CBJ)
    Ben Bishop (DAL)
    Martin Jones (SJ)
    Jake Allen (STL)
    Corey Crawford (CHI)


    I would have Murray in the top 3 if the Penguins didn't say they were going to cap his games.
    Based on those cats I'd bump Price down a bit and I'd take out allen and add freddy andersen...pretty good list tho
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    double post oops!
    10 Team Roto Keeper League; 20 Keepers;
    Stats: G,A,Pts,ppg,ppa,pims,+/- ; W,sv%,svs
    C: Seguin, Panarin, Carter
    LW: Benn, Hall, Buchnevich, Coyle, Zucker
    RW: Kane, Simmonds, Stone, Nino, Gallagher
    D: Subban, Doughty, Byfuglien, Jones, Mcdonagh, Fowler
    G: Price, Holtby, Halak, Reimer

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    My bias for Price is not a secret but just saying, last year 62 starts, 37 wins, seems reasonable to expect that again. There will not be 5 guys with more then 37 wins next year, or at least that's very unlikely. I expect his shutout #'s to rise back to his normal pace again too.


    There's a lot of wiggle room with this list since so much of it is team based, but any goalie list with Price out of the top 5...i'm sorry gang I just cant live with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by StuntMan12 View Post
    I would be a little worried taking Pricer at #2 since their team is not quite as good as it was last year by losing Radulov and Markov.
    Drouin and Alzner additions replace them nicely tho. Who knows yet if they are a better or worse for it.
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    G: Price, Holtby, Halak, Reimer

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    Quote Originally Posted by donions View Post
    My bias for Price is not a secret but just saying, last year 62 starts, 37 wins, seems reasonable to expect that again. There will not be 5 guys with more then 37 wins next year, or at least that's very unlikely. I expect his shutout #'s to rise back to his normal pace again too.


    There's a lot of wiggle room with this list since so much of it is team based, but any goalie list with Price out of the top 5...i'm sorry gang I just cant live with that.


    Drouin and Alzner additions replace them nicely tho. Who knows yet if they are a better or worse for it.
    good points. am going to have to do a lot of research more into this. Goalies seem to play a bigger part in my $250 league compared to my $50 1 year league as we only have 15~ managers, 13 forwards (top 11), 3 defence (top 2), 2 goalies (top 1). The $250 league is the one I want to win badly, lots of great hockey minds in this pool and thought it was a big achievement to come 3rd/16 last season.

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    Spent the last couple hours researching about teams and goalies and line combos. I made some projections for teams next season and made projections for each starting goalie for wins/sv%/shut-outs. By using our point system (win = 2 pts, OTL = 1 pt, SO = 1 pt) these are the top 31 point getters - note I didn't project any OTL because how the heck can anyone predict those? lol. So in reality these numbers should be higher since each goalie should have some OTL points but here is my rankings so far.

    1. Braden Holtby 89 pts
    2. Cam Talbot 85 pts
    3. Devan Dubnyk 79 pts
    4. Sergei Bobrovsky 77 pts
    5. Martin Jones 77 pts
    6. Tuuka Rask 76 pts
    7. Ben Bishop 74 pts
    8. Jonathan Quick 73 pts
    9. Corey Crawford 73 pts
    10. Carey Price 72 pts
    11. Jake Allen 72 pts
    12. Matt Murray 71 pts
    13. Andrei Vasilevsky 69 pts
    14. Frederick Andersen 68 pts
    15. Henrik Lundqvist 67 pts
    16. Craig Anderson 66 pts
    17. Pekka Rinne 64 pts
    18. Robin Lehner 62 pts
    19. John Gibson 61 pts
    20. Steve Mason 59 pts
    21. Mike Smith 59 pts
    22. Marc-Andre Fluery 58 pts
    23. Thomas Greiss 54 pts
    24. Semyon Varlamov 53 pts
    25. Cory Schnieder 48 pts
    26. Antti Raanta 47 pts
    27. Brian Elliot 46 pts
    28. Cam Ward 45 pts
    29. Jacob Markstrom 45 pts
    30. Roberto Luongo 45 pts
    31. Petr Mrazek 44 pts



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    *the number in the commas are projected starts*

    EASTERS CONFERENCE
    1. Washington Capitals Braden Holtby (65) 41 wins / .923 SV% / 7 SO Philipp Grubauer (17)
    2. Pittsburgh Penguins Matt Murray (55) 34 wins / .922 SV% / 3 SO Antti Niemi (27)
    3. Tampa Bay Lightning Andrei Vasilevsky (55) 33 wins / .918 SV% / 3 SO Peter Budaj (27)
    4. Columbus Blue Jackets Sergei Bobrovsky (62) 36 wins / .924 SV% / 5 SO Joonas Korpisalo (20)
    5. New York Rangers Henrik Lundqvist (58) 32 wins / .914 SV% / 3 SO Ondrej Pavelec (24)
    6. Boston Bruins Tuuka Rask (65) 35 wins / .916 SV% / 6 SO Anton Khudobin (17)
    7. Ottawa Senators Craig Anderson (60) 31 wins / .920 SV% / 4 SO Mike Condon (22)
    8. Toronto Maple Leafs Frederik Andersen (65) 32 wins / .919 SV% / 4 SO Curtis McElhinney (17)
    9. Montreal Canadiens Carey Price (62) 34 wins / .924 SV% / 4 SO Al Montoya (20)
    10. Buffalo Sabres Robin Lehner (60) 30 wins / .921 SV% / 2 SO Chad Johnson (22)
    11. Carolina Hurricanes Cam Ward (45) 22 wins / .905 SV% / 1 SO Scott Darling (37)
    12. New York Islanders Thomas Greiss (55) 26 wins / .915 SV% / 2 SO Jaroslav Halak (27)
    13. Florida Panthers Roberto Luongo (45) 22 wins / .915 SV% / 1 SO James Reimer (37)
    14. Detroit Red Wings Petr Mrazek (50) 21 wins / .910 SV% / 2 SO Jimmy Howard (32)
    15. Philadelphia Flyers Brian Elliot (50) 20 wins / .912 SV% / 2 SO Michal Neuvirth (32)
    16. New Jersey Devils Cory Schneider (60) 23 wins / .914 SV% / 2 SO Keith Kinkaid (22)



    Western Conference
    1. Chicago Blackhawks Corey Crawford (57) 35 wins / .919 SV% / 3 SO Anton Forsberg (25)
    2. Edmonton Oilers Cam Talbot (68) 40 wins / .918 SV% / 5 SO Laurent Brossoit (14)
    3. San Jose Sharks Martin Jones (65) 36 wins / .915 SV% / 5 SO Aaron Dell (17)
    4. Dallas Stars Ben Bishop (58) 35 wins / .916 SV% / 4 SO Kari Lehtonen (24)
    5. Minnesota Wild Devan Dubnyk (65) 37 wins / .920 SV% / 5 SO Alex Stalock (17)
    6. St. Louis Blues Jake Allen (62) 34 wins / .918 SV% / 4 SO Carter Hutton (20)
    7. Nashville Predators Pekka Rinne (60) 31 wins / .918 SV% / 2 SO Jusse Saros (22)
    8. Anaheim Ducks John Gibson (55) 28 wins / .923 SV% / 5 SO Ryan Miller (27)
    9. Los Angeles Kings Jonathan Quick (65) 35 wins / .918 SV% / 3 SO Darcy Kuemper (17)
    10. Winnipeg Jets Steve Mason (50) 28 wins / .914 SV% / 3 SO Connor Hellebuyck (32)
    11. Calgary Flames Mike Smith (55) 28 wins / .914 SV% / 3 SO Eddie Lack (27)
    12. Arizona Coyotes Antti Raanta (45) 22 wins / .910 SV% / 3 SO Louis Domingue (37)
    13. Vegas Golden Knights Marc-Andre Fluery (55) 28 wins / .914 SV% / 2 SO Calvin Pickard (27)
    14. Vancouver Canucks Jacob Markstrom (50) 22 wins / .915 SV% / 1 SO Anders Nilsson (32)
    15. Colorado Avalanche Semyon Varlamov (58) 27 wins / .912 SV% / 1 SO Jonathan Bernier (24)

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    Default Re: Top 10 Goalies for next season

    Holtby - still elite goalie on a great team
    Price - goalie coach quoted as lowering Price's starts to under 65. Could change depending where they are in standings
    Andersen - loads of starts. McElhinney not trust worthy. Health is a concern though.
    Talbot - same as above minus the health. Insert Brossoit for McElhinney.
    Murray - freak injuries last year but should hold up this year. Niemi may steal some starts as Murray has never played 50 games in a season (AHL or NHL)
    Bobrovsky - slight fall due to no win streak over 10 games this year. Health obviously an issue
    Jones - workhorse goalie on a still solid team
    Dubnyk - same as above. Boudreau's teams are always President trophy contenders
    Quick - workhorse and unstable backup situation. Health issues as well
    Crawford - always seams to miss a few weeks mid season. Not a West leading team this year
    Rask- work horse but a team success will stagnate win totals

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