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    Default Trying to get Draisaitl....

    Started with a Monahan/ Fabbri combo but not working as of now....should I put more?

    Last declined deal was:

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    This was the deal with Gibson and Bob in it right
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triplea14 View Post
    This was the deal with Gibson and Bob in it right
    The deal in the OP was the first one in....he countered with Gibson and Bob in....but I don't want to give Gibson....especially in a salary cap league....
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    If I were the Draisaitl owner, I wouldn't take that last offer of Monahan and Fabbri either. Just not enough IMO.
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    He probably knows you want Draisaitl a lot so he's trying to get you to pay through the nose - you can't really blame him. One option would be to wait until Draisaitl signs, since if it's for a big number then the owner should become much more flexible.
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    FWIW, I'd probably do the deal with Gibson/Bob in it if you can make the salaries work (like dropping Ladd outright). I think Burakovsky is close to Fabbri's value and Draisatl trumps Monahan by quite a bit.

    If I were the Draisatl owner, I'd require an upgrade somewhere and you haven't really offered it anywhere yet.

    The other option is to remove Burakovsky and do Monahan + Fabbri + something for Draisatl.
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    That's what I'm thinking. I don't really care about burakovsky in that deal. Sabe the salary there and do monahan and fabri. Or do the one with goalies and make it work. Drop a player or take bura out
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    Most GMs won't make a move knowing they are losing the best player in the deal - regardless of the amount of pieces coming back. Not enough in my opinion. I would need a top 20 forward just to get things moving. Those two are not top 20 forwards and likely won't be anytime soon.
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    I own Draisaitl. Your offer would be an insult.

    Edit: Looking at your team, if you were dealing with me, the offer would need to begin with Marner, before we discuss who else is being added for me to give up Draisaitl.
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    I waited for a cold saturday night in feb to propose voracek>>>draisaitl to one of my diehard flyer fans that participates in my leagues .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeds of Grapes View Post
    I own Draisaitl. Your offer would be an insult.

    Edit: Looking at your team, if you were dealing with me, the offer would need to begin with Marner, before we discuss who else is being added for me to give up Draisaitl.
    Seeds, is Monahan + Fabbri for Draisatl insulting? I would have thought it would be a good starting place with the need to upgrade either Fabbri or a goalie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreed3184 View Post
    Seeds, is Monahan + Fabbri for Draisatl insulting? I would have thought it would be a good starting place with the need to upgrade either Fabbri or a goalie.
    For the record, I did not mean to be insulting.

    Draisaitl was a second year player who ranked 8th in points (I am in a points only league). To place that in perspective, he ranked ahead of players like Tarasenko, Ovechkin, Pastrnak, Kessel, Pavelski, Seguin and Malkin.

    While still young, Monahan has been in the league for several seasons and finished 47th overall in points last season.

    So, yes, I would consider the offer of Monahan and any lesser player to be a lowball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeds of Grapes View Post
    For the record, I did not mean to be insulting.

    Draisaitl was a second year player who ranked 8th in points (I am in a points only league). To place that in perspective, he ranked ahead of players like Tarasenko, Ovechkin, Pastrnak, Kessel, Pavelski, Seguin and Malkin.

    While still young, Monahan has been in the league for several seasons and finished 47th overall in points last season.

    So, yes, I would consider the offer of Monahan and any lesser player to be a lowball.
    Thanks Seeds - I didn't take it as insulting at all. I was genuinely curious how you value Draisatl.

    Makes sense. Draisatl is one of those players difficult to trade for/away. If I own him, I probably value him as you are - up there with Seguin/Malkin. But if I'm trading for him, I'm not giving up any of those guys based on their proven ability to perform over multiple years (Pasta excluded).

    Maybe I'm in the minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreed3184 View Post
    Thanks Seeds - I didn't take it as insulting at all. I was genuinely curious how you value Draisatl.

    Makes sense. Draisatl is one of those players difficult to trade for/away. If I own him, I probably value him as you are - up there with Seguin/Malkin. But if I'm trading for him, I'm not giving up any of those guys based on their proven ability to perform over multiple years (Pasta excluded).

    Maybe I'm in the minority.
    No worries.

    For clarification, I cannot value him as highly as any proven player mentioned (except Pasta). I did say in my opening comment that for me the conversation would begin with Marner + for Draisaitl; and even then, it would depend. Draisaitl is one of my untouchables, so for me, it would need to be a great offer.
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    Something like Kessel+Tkachuk would be more like it... IMO
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