Trade offer - Aho vs Mantha - I'll rep

[LeafsFan1967]

I have aho as my rookie carry over going into 17/18, to go along with my 4 keepers. After next season, I can sign him to 1 or 2 yrs if I have an open slot, based on our rookie contract rules. I picked up Eberle in season last year, and was hoping he would have a good end to the year, but he was mediocre. My plan is to buy out of his 1 yr remaining (50 bucks). I got an interesting trade offer, Nuge (2 yrs remaining), a 2nd in 2017 (21st overall) and Mantha for my Aho, and Eberle. I would have to pay 100 to buy out Nuge, but would gain a valuable pick, and I guess downgrade my rookie slot a bit. Would this deal be worth it to improve my draft? I mean Mantha + 2nd is better to me than just Aho and no 2nd gained. Both are lw/rw, and young players obviously. Wasn't really looking to move Aho, but this offer caught my attention. My other picks are 1, 2, 3, 3, 5, 5, 6, 7, 8. If I get the 2, it's gravy. The 2nd I already have is pick 24, I acquired that in a trade previously (don't have my own 2nd). I finished 3rd anyways, so both of these 2nds will be better than what my own 2nd would have been. I realize it's hard to quantify a trade where there are buyouts involved, because everyone may have a different perspective on whether a draft pick is worth gaining with a cost incurred. I'm just talking how does the trade look at face value? I don't know a lot about mantha and his upside, but Carolina is the better team right now.

[Eskimo Brother]

1) Your posts are still very long winded, which is limiting the replies.
2) Is this $50 or $100 cost in real money, or is it quantified in a salary cap or annual spending limit somewhere?
3) Aho > Mantha
4) Nuge > Eberle (Though tough to say without categories)

[FinnishFlash]

I'd prefer Aho over Mantha.

[LeafsFan1967]

I'd prefer Aho over Mantha.

I do too, was just looking at it in regards to Mantha/2nd vs Aho, so the 2nd should offset any pt differential between the 2, If not provide me more fantasy pts. The carry over is just the opportunity to get a look at a rookie for an extra year.

[finnys_fanatsy]

I do too, was just looking at it in regards to Mantha/2nd vs Aho, so the 2nd should offset any pt differential between the 2, If not provide me more fantasy pts. The carry over is just the opportunity to get a look at a rookie for an extra year.

You answered your own question I think...?

I dunno man...To me it sounds like you have your mind made up and are looking for somebody to 'argue' the opposite. Lemme tell you, a big part of this is taking the opinions given and using them to assist you. because if you are just coming here to have opinions posted but you won't keep an open mind then it's going to be very frustrating for you and us. Sometimes there's just no talking someone outta or into something.

FWIW i prefer Mantha and the 2nd

[GoNucks]

I would prefer Mantha & 2nd

[LeafsFan1967]

You answered your own question I think...?

I dunno man...To me it sounds like you have your mind made up and are looking for somebody to 'argue' the opposite. Lemme tell you, a big part of this is taking the opinions given and using them to assist you. because if you are just coming here to have opinions posted but you won't keep an open mind then it's going to be very frustrating for you and us. Sometimes there's just no talking someone outta or into something.

FWIW i prefer Mantha and the 2nd

If I had my mind made up, I would have already done the trade. I like getting good dialogue going, not trying to get people to argue the opposite. I have an opinion regarding what I think of the offer, so that's what I shared.

[LeafsFan1967]

1) Your posts are still very long winded, which is limiting the replies.
2) Is this $50 or $100 cost in real money, or is it quantified in a salary cap or annual spending limit somewhere?
3) Aho > Mantha
4) Nuge > Eberle (Though tough to say without categories)

My league is complicated, so hard to keep posts brief without getting questions back, so figure more detail = less uncertainty. This is not a salary cap based league, I have that type of detail in my signature. The cost is in real money. I know aho is > Mantha, although I have to admit didn't follow Detroit last year, just know they were mediocre. Nuge vs Eberle angle is irrelevant in terms of comparing, because as stated it's going to be a buy out on either side. Categories are in signature..

[als_revenge]

Actually, your signature isn't showing, so we don't know your categories....!

[Triplea14]

Here we go

[Eskimo Brother]

My league is complicated, so hard to keep posts brief without getting questions back, so figure more detail = less uncertainty. This is not a salary cap based league, I have that type of detail in my signature. The cost is in real money. I know aho is > Mantha, although I have to admit didn't follow Detroit last year, just know they were mediocre. Nuge vs Eberle angle is irrelevant in terms of comparing, because as stated it's going to be a buy out on either side. Categories are in signature..

To me buying out a different player for an extra $50 of real time money is not worth it at all unless this deal makes a big difference for your team and the prize pool is >$1000. It's definitely not a big swing for your team, and I'm also assuming you guys don't put that much on the line, so I say no solely for that reason.
Your sig didn't show up so that's why I had to ask about the cap.

[LeafsFan1967]

To me buying out a different player for an extra $50 of real time money is not worth it at all unless this deal makes a big difference for your team and the prize pool is >$1000. It's definitely not a big swing for your team, and I'm also assuming you guys don't put that much on the line, so I say no solely for that reason.
Your sig didn't show up so that's why I had to ask about the cap.

Well a 2nd round pick is a big getc and this will be our 10th year doing the pool, all the guys know each other, and only a couple of the gms have changed during that time. The buy in is 100, 14 teams and top 4 win money, with highest weighting going to 1st. A lot of people in this thread seem to think Mantha/2nd is better than just Aho.

[finnys_fanatsy]

Well a 2nd round pick is a big getc and this will be our 10th year doing the pool, all the guys know each other, and only a couple of the gms have changed during that time. The buy in is 100, 14 teams and top 4 win money, with highest weighting going to 1st. A lot of people in this thread seem to think Mantha/2nd is better than just Aho.

Mantha and a 2nd is better than Aho (2 for 1 is most times better when two players are close enough)..however teh $50 of real money..i dunno if i bite. i'd be inclined to keep Aho here now that you are playing with real time dinero.

[LeafsFan1967]

Mantha and a 2nd is better than Aho (2 for 1 is most times better when two players are close enough)..however teh $50 of real money..i dunno if i bite. i'd be inclined to keep Aho here now that you are playing with real time dinero.

Yeah, I do see what you are saying. I mean I would have paid 50$ to buy out of Eberle, I really should have never taken that contract last year, I got him in the Aho deal, so if I take Mantha I'll just have to pay 100 vs 50. The 2nd makes it really tempting, that's all. I finished 3rd last year, and my keepers going into last year were: Hubes, MacK, Hall, Kuzy and rookie was Domi. This year, it's looking like Monahan, RyJo, Hall, Kuzy, Aho or Mantha, and I've already discussed the possibility of keeping Wheeler if I move 1 of my other keepers. I drafted really well last year.

[Moses]

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