This should be pretty close to a lateral move. They're both top 10 goalies IMO.
How will these two goalies compare going forward? Thinking of offering up Dubnyk to improve in another area and ask for Bishop back in the deal. Will he bounce back this coming year?
Goalie categories are:
2 points for a win
1 point for OT loss
3 points for a shut-out
1 point for every save
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1st teamC: S. Aho, E. Malkin, W. Karllson, B. Nelson
LW: B. Marchand, A. Ovechkin, J. Zucker, N. Niederreiter, A. Svechnikov,
RW: D. Perron, J. Kyrou, C. Keller, D. Strome, T. Toffoli, C. Perfetti,
D: j. Carlson, D. Hamilton, R. Andersson, F. Hronek,J. Spurgeon
G: , C. Hellybuck, J. Ottinger, A. Vasilevskiy
2nd team
C: E. Lindholm, J. Pavelski, JT Miller, R. Johansen, A. Killorn, B. Jenner(IR)
LW: , B. Marchand, A. Mangiapane, T. Toffoli, J. Gaudreau
RW: P. Kane, Pasta, D. Perron, T. Wilson, N. Schmaltz, M. Tkackuk
D: J. Carlson, A. Pietriangelo, C. McAvoy, N. Schmidt, J. Trouba, J. Morrissey
G: J. Markstrom, C. Hellybuyck, T. Jarry
This should be pretty close to a lateral move. They're both top 10 goalies IMO.
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With those categories I think they will be quite close. I expect Dallas to be a contender this year. Bishop is likely to be peppered with shots.
If you can use Dubnyk to get bishop + a positional upgrade elsewhere I'd do it.
Those were my thoughts. The other option was to trade Dubnyk for a positional upgrade and hopefully grab either Darling or Raanta with a pick. From some trades, I hold basically the 8th, 9th and 10th picks. (8 team league, so last pick in first round, first 2 picks in 2nd round.)
1st teamC: S. Aho, E. Malkin, W. Karllson, B. Nelson
LW: B. Marchand, A. Ovechkin, J. Zucker, N. Niederreiter, A. Svechnikov,
RW: D. Perron, J. Kyrou, C. Keller, D. Strome, T. Toffoli, C. Perfetti,
D: j. Carlson, D. Hamilton, R. Andersson, F. Hronek,J. Spurgeon
G: , C. Hellybuck, J. Ottinger, A. Vasilevskiy
2nd team
C: E. Lindholm, J. Pavelski, JT Miller, R. Johansen, A. Killorn, B. Jenner(IR)
LW: , B. Marchand, A. Mangiapane, T. Toffoli, J. Gaudreau
RW: P. Kane, Pasta, D. Perron, T. Wilson, N. Schmaltz, M. Tkackuk
D: J. Carlson, A. Pietriangelo, C. McAvoy, N. Schmidt, J. Trouba, J. Morrissey
G: J. Markstrom, C. Hellybuyck, T. Jarry
I like your first idea more. Raanta and Darling aren't likely to get the Wins
what are your other goalies. If Dubnyk is your #1 I'm not moving him to downgrade in net and fill another hole. If you've got Price/Holtby as your #1 or something equal to Dubnyk, I'm okay with downgrading to shore up another hole.. as you're not creating a huge hole in net.
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I like your first idea more. Raanta and Darling aren't likely to get the Wins
My 3 goalies I have in this league are Holtby, Talbot and Dubnyk. So I think I am set in goal no matter which way I go.
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KHL Fantasy Hockey League Keep 8
3-C 3-RW 3-LW 6-D 2-G
Forward 5-G 3-A 1.0 STP
D-Men 6-G 4-A 1.5 STP
.35 Shot .4 Hit .4 Block .1 FOW
Goalie 6.5 Win .25 Save -2.5 GA 2-SO
C- Larkin, Hischer, Horvat, R. Thomas
LW- Stamkos, Hyman, Kreider, Lehkonen,
RW- Laine, Marchessault, Toffoli. Buchnevich
D- Doughty, Burns, Letang, Andersson (IR), Faulk, Toews, Pionk, Petry
G- Vasilevskiy, Copley, Andersen
I still prefer Dubnyk here. Overall he is the better goalie and Minnesota is still a very strong team. Dallas is looking like a real contender but need to fill some holes on Defence. I'm in a similar league as you and I wouldn't give up Dubnyk for Bishop no way.
I like Dubnyk over Bishop by quite a margin....but yes they're both top 10.
If those are your scoring categories I prefer Dubnyk by quite a ton. Sidenote: that scoring is ridiculous not your fault but you need to exploit it. You want goalies who are going to see the most shots, ignore wins, ignore shutouts, a guy who faces 40 shots and lets in 6 goals (34 points) outscores a 25 save shutout (30 points).
Dallas and Minnesota were right next to each other in shots allowed last year, Minnesota actually gave up slightly more.
Dubnyk is a work-horse, he is the clear cut #1 starter on the team and has no serious challenge for backup, Dubnyk was 5th in starts and 5th in total saves last year. No reason to expect those numbers to move much at all.
Bishop has moved to a new team, he is likely the favourite to start but Lehtonen is still there to steal starts, also Bishop has an injury riddled past which will cost him starts.
I see that you have Hotlby, Talbot, Dubnyk I'm going to say those 3 were all top-6 goalies last year in this league so it's fine to move one to shore up other positions but I prefer Dubnyk to outscore Bishop by a bunch next year because he'll get 10-15+ more starts.
12 team H-2-H 1 year league, daily roster changes, 3 goalie start minimum/week
2xC, 2xRW, 2xLW, 4xD, 3xUtil, 2xG, 5 Bench
G, A, P, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, W, SV%, GAA, SVs
C: C. Keller, C. Mittelstadt, B. Nelson, R. Strome,
LW: K. Connor, B. Tkachuk, J. Gaudreau, J. Marchessault, E. Rodrigues, A. Lafreniere
RW: K. Fiala, J. Bratt, T. Jeannot V. Arvidsson
D: R. Josi, J. Trouba, E. Gustafsson,
G: L. Thompson, F. Gustavsson, V. Vanecek
NO IR
Sorry, just noticed my mistake. It's 1 point for every 30 saves. That was a huge typo on my part.
1st teamC: S. Aho, E. Malkin, W. Karllson, B. Nelson
LW: B. Marchand, A. Ovechkin, J. Zucker, N. Niederreiter, A. Svechnikov,
RW: D. Perron, J. Kyrou, C. Keller, D. Strome, T. Toffoli, C. Perfetti,
D: j. Carlson, D. Hamilton, R. Andersson, F. Hronek,J. Spurgeon
G: , C. Hellybuck, J. Ottinger, A. Vasilevskiy
2nd team
C: E. Lindholm, J. Pavelski, JT Miller, R. Johansen, A. Killorn, B. Jenner(IR)
LW: , B. Marchand, A. Mangiapane, T. Toffoli, J. Gaudreau
RW: P. Kane, Pasta, D. Perron, T. Wilson, N. Schmaltz, M. Tkackuk
D: J. Carlson, A. Pietriangelo, C. McAvoy, N. Schmidt, J. Trouba, J. Morrissey
G: J. Markstrom, C. Hellybuyck, T. Jarry
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12Team Roto Keeper (5keepers) Weekly lineups
Player: G, A,+/-, PPG, PPA, SOG = 2pts
Player: +/-, Blocked Shots = 1pt
Goalie: GGP, GAA, SPct, W, SO = 1pt
Lineup: 3C, 4W, 4D 2G, 6Farm/Prospect Players
C: C.McDavid, T.Thompson
W: K.Kaprizov, ,
D: A. Fox,
G: I.Shesterkin,
Farm/Prospects free carry: C: M. Savoie W:
D: L. Hutson G: D. Levi