This is going to be the Blues situation for a while.
Peitrangelo = Provorov
Shattenkirk = Ghost
Who is the main D for the Flyers??
6 Team Keeper.
Salary Cap $108M with 3 players at 75% price. Points only G/A=1, Hattrick = +3, W= 2, SO = +3, OTL/SOL = +1
12 F, 6 D, 2 G, 8 Reserves (any position)
Forwards
Pastrnak $8.4, Eichel $7.5, MacKinnon $9.4, Ovechkin $9.5, JT Miller $8.0, RNH $5.1, Malkin $6.1, Marchand $6.1, Rust $5.1, Stephenson $2.7, M. Raymond $0.9, Terry $7.0, Duchene $3.0, P Kane $0.0, Mittelstadt $2.5, Kreider $6.5
Defence
Sandin $1.4, Montour $3.5, R Andersson $4.5, Barrie $4.5, J Carlson $8.0, McAvoy $9.5, Giordano $0.8, Byram $3.8, Hedman $7.8
Goalies
Vasilevsky $9.5, Kuemper $5.2, F Andersen $3.4, Korpisalo $4.0
This is going to be the Blues situation for a while.
Peitrangelo = Provorov
Shattenkirk = Ghost
14 Team, Keep14 Farm5, 82GP Cap/Position
Skaters: Points only, Goalies 2ptWin/3ptSO
Start: 4C,4LW,4RW,6D,2G
C- Crosby, Zibanejad, Couturier, Zacha, Frost
LW- Marchand, Huberdeau, McTavish, Rackell, Kuzmenko
RW- Konecny, Necas, Caufield, Jarvis, Lafreniere
D- Hughes, Carlson, Werenski, Chychrun, Andersson, Dobson, Weegar
G- Andersen, Merzlikins, Daccord, Jones
Farm- Johnston, Foerster, Tarasov, Hutson, Reinbacher
Picks-1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,11
This is the exact comparison I was going to use. Ghosts bread and butter is PP1 and rushing the puck while Provorov is the better overall Dman and can be utilized well in many situations outside of the prime offensive opportunities.
In a points only league I'd prefer Ghost who I can picture in the 55-60 point range for the next few years while Provorov will probably be closer to 40-45.
10 team full keeper roto 4C/LW/RW,6D,2G
G,A,P,+/-,PIM,SOG,GWG,PPP,SHP,Hit,Blk,FOW
W,GAA,SV,SV%,SHO
C-Aho,Couturier,Matthews,O'Reilly
LW-Ehlers,Giroux,Panarin,Rust
RW-Kucherov,Palmieri,Pastrnak,Wilson
D-Burns,Carlson,Gudas,Josi,Nurse,Pietrangelo
G-Fleury,F.Andersen,Markstrom
BN-Zacha
Under 250 gp farm
Beaucage,Berggren,Bokk,Brisson,Chytil,Dugan,Foerst er,Foote,Frost,Grewe,K.Johnson,Lindblom,Mikheyev,N ybeck,Peterka,Pospisil,Protas,Ranta,Raty,Stankoven ,Suzuki,Tuomaala
Alexeyev,Brook,Foote,Graves,Poirier,Sanderson,Seid er,Wilde,Woo,Zamula
Berdin,Brossoit,Commesso,Ersson,Husso,Knight,Koche tkov,Lafontaine,Oettinger,Primeau,Sandstrom,Stolar z,Ustimenko,Vladar
In your points only set up, Ghost for sure.
Hockey Pools? Too many to mention. Points only, salary cap and dynasty.
Ghost for points only. The above analysis is spot on.
I'm not sure so as the rest of the lads. Provorov is already the best dman on the Flyers. I believe him to be better offensively than Ghost and I think that this year might be the last one that Ghost is the better fantasy option. Personally, this year I think its 50-50. Provorov could end up scoring more points than Ghost, just as easily as Ghost might end up scoring more. The year after that, it will be Provorov. The guy is a genius, with composure and hockey sense through the roof. It might be as soon as next year, but definitely the year after that. Ivan will be the best fantasy dman option in Philly.
Starting with this year, you will be adding some of Morin, Sanheim, Hagg or Myers into the top team mix. When that happens, Provorov wont have to be the defensive rock that he is now. Provorov will be teamed up with Morin who will do the heavy lifting defensively. This will free up Provorov to work his magic. Ghost bear will be on the 2nd pairing with Sanhiem or Hagg or Myers.
This year, its a tough call... after that its Provorov all the way.
Agree with the concensus - despite some fall back last season, take away the commentary behind his numbers and look at what he produced - 39 points in 76 games (41 point pace), add the commentary back in and have to think he can go another level as he grows
Experience is the teacher of all things.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
"Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."
In a totally fantasy stand point will Provorov ever going to surpass Ghost? I ask because I have ghost and could trade to the Provorov owner and get an extra with him? Would it be worth it if say I got the 3rd overall pick with it
10 team full keeper roto 4C/LW/RW,6D,2G
G,A,P,+/-,PIM,SOG,GWG,PPP,SHP,Hit,Blk,FOW
W,GAA,SV,SV%,SHO
C-Aho,Couturier,Matthews,O'Reilly
LW-Ehlers,Giroux,Panarin,Rust
RW-Kucherov,Palmieri,Pastrnak,Wilson
D-Burns,Carlson,Gudas,Josi,Nurse,Pietrangelo
G-Fleury,F.Andersen,Markstrom
BN-Zacha
Under 250 gp farm
Beaucage,Berggren,Bokk,Brisson,Chytil,Dugan,Foerst er,Foote,Frost,Grewe,K.Johnson,Lindblom,Mikheyev,N ybeck,Peterka,Pospisil,Protas,Ranta,Raty,Stankoven ,Suzuki,Tuomaala
Alexeyev,Brook,Foote,Graves,Poirier,Sanderson,Seid er,Wilde,Woo,Zamula
Berdin,Brossoit,Commesso,Ersson,Husso,Knight,Koche tkov,Lafontaine,Oettinger,Primeau,Sandstrom,Stolar z,Ustimenko,Vladar
The League in London (20 Team Multi-Cat H2H $100 Dynasty League) - Season 11
... In memory of "The Net Detective"
C Pinto kDach Hayton Roy / Lowry Bjugstad Blueger Carrick
LW Lehkonen Knies kJohnson Greenway / Laferriere Reichel Luostarinen Kartye Grebyonkin Buchelnikov
RW Quinn Joseph Roslovic Chinakhov / Kakko Glass Brink O'Connor Holmberg Berggren Tuomaala
D Werenski Hronek Power Guhle McCabe Roy / Gudas Raddysh Pachal Evans Cormier
G Swayman / Hill Mrazek Ivanov Kokko
Ghost is a liability. I'm looking forward to the days when our younger dmen are better options. Unlikely this year, but maybe the year after if one or two of the kids play this whole year. If Hextall can trade him for a 1st rounder next year, I will be pleased.
am a fan of both d men. if i was rebuilding i would take provorov, contending i take gostisbehere. ghost seems to be more flashy while provorov may be the better real life d man.