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    Who is the main D for the Flyers??
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    This is going to be the Blues situation for a while.

    Peitrangelo = Provorov
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    Quote Originally Posted by theslymonkey View Post
    This is going to be the Blues situation for a while.

    Peitrangelo = Provorov
    Shattenkirk = Ghost
    This is the exact comparison I was going to use. Ghosts bread and butter is PP1 and rushing the puck while Provorov is the better overall Dman and can be utilized well in many situations outside of the prime offensive opportunities.

    In a points only league I'd prefer Ghost who I can picture in the 55-60 point range for the next few years while Provorov will probably be closer to 40-45.
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    In your points only set up, Ghost for sure.
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    Default Re: Ghost or provorov

    Ghost for points only. The above analysis is spot on.

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    I'm not sure so as the rest of the lads. Provorov is already the best dman on the Flyers. I believe him to be better offensively than Ghost and I think that this year might be the last one that Ghost is the better fantasy option. Personally, this year I think its 50-50. Provorov could end up scoring more points than Ghost, just as easily as Ghost might end up scoring more. The year after that, it will be Provorov. The guy is a genius, with composure and hockey sense through the roof. It might be as soon as next year, but definitely the year after that. Ivan will be the best fantasy dman option in Philly.

    Starting with this year, you will be adding some of Morin, Sanheim, Hagg or Myers into the top team mix. When that happens, Provorov wont have to be the defensive rock that he is now. Provorov will be teamed up with Morin who will do the heavy lifting defensively. This will free up Provorov to work his magic. Ghost bear will be on the 2nd pairing with Sanhiem or Hagg or Myers.

    This year, its a tough call... after that its Provorov all the way.

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    Agree with the concensus - despite some fall back last season, take away the commentary behind his numbers and look at what he produced - 39 points in 76 games (41 point pace), add the commentary back in and have to think he can go another level as he grows
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    Quote Originally Posted by z420-81 View Post
    Who is the main D for the Flyers??
    Is your question fantasy related or just a general question?

    To answer your posted question, I'd say Provorov is the main D for the Flyers.
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    In a totally fantasy stand point will Provorov ever going to surpass Ghost? I ask because I have ghost and could trade to the Provorov owner and get an extra with him? Would it be worth it if say I got the 3rd overall pick with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Call of Doughty View Post
    In your points only set up, Ghost for sure.
    His set up also includes a cap league; Ghost's cap is more than double of Provorov. That's gotta be a factor in the short-term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slickricks View Post
    In a totally fantasy stand point will Provorov ever going to surpass Ghost? I ask because I have ghost and could trade to the Provorov owner and get an extra with him? Would it be worth it if say I got the 3rd overall pick with it
    Shit yeah, if you can get Provorov and 3rd overall for Ghost, I'd do that all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slickricks View Post
    In a totally fantasy stand point will Provorov ever going to surpass Ghost? I ask because I have ghost and could trade to the Provorov owner and get an extra with him? Would it be worth it if say I got the 3rd overall pick with it
    Yes,.. yes it would be very worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slickricks View Post
    In a totally fantasy stand point will Provorov ever going to surpass Ghost? I ask because I have ghost and could trade to the Provorov owner and get an extra with him? Would it be worth it if say I got the 3rd overall pick with it
    That's insane... you should be the one adding the 3rd overall to land Provorov... take it and run.

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    Ghost is a liability. I'm looking forward to the days when our younger dmen are better options. Unlikely this year, but maybe the year after if one or two of the kids play this whole year. If Hextall can trade him for a 1st rounder next year, I will be pleased.

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    am a fan of both d men. if i was rebuilding i would take provorov, contending i take gostisbehere. ghost seems to be more flashy while provorov may be the better real life d man.

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