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  1. July 14, 2017, 3:06 PM #1
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    Hi guys, just looking for the best player available for my draft pick - 19th - multi cat league (no AToi no PIM, no +/-)

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    C: Mackinnon, Matthews, Seguin(RW), Stamkos(LW/RW), Couturier
    LW: E. Kane, Pacioretty, Rakell(RW), Miller(RW), Palat, Johnsson
    RW: Voracek, Dadonov(LW), Pavelski(C), Eberle, Olofsson
    D: Burns, Jones, Ristolainen, Gustafsson, Weber, Fowler, D.Toews
    G: Hellebucyk, Varlamov, Mrazek

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    Default Re: Tolvanen, Necas or Klostin

    I've got wiser to drafting guys I liked before the draft, after they slipped in the actual draft. I let Tolvanen and Kostin slip down my draft rankings after watching the actual draft, just like they slid down in the actual draft. I trust the scouts enough to know they know more than I do in regards to these kids.

    I've always been high on Necas. Nothing has changed for me here. He's my next pick from these three. Of course none of us truly know what player from these three will really turn out to be anything (if any of them) but I have to believe the paid professionals know more than I do.
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    That's great advices for sure and mythic gut tells me the same(to go with Necas) but I heard Klostin slipt because he wasn't sure to play in North America.
    16 teams Dynasty H2H, 25 Pro 17 Farm 4C 4LW 4RW 6D 1G 6B
    Cats: G, A, P, PPP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK, W, GAA, SV%

    C: Mackinnon, Matthews, Seguin(RW), Stamkos(LW/RW), Couturier
    LW: E. Kane, Pacioretty, Rakell(RW), Miller(RW), Palat, Johnsson
    RW: Voracek, Dadonov(LW), Pavelski(C), Eberle, Olofsson
    D: Burns, Jones, Ristolainen, Gustafsson, Weber, Fowler, D.Toews
    G: Hellebucyk, Varlamov, Mrazek

    Farm: R.Suzuki, Garland, Kostin, A.Thomas, Appleton,     Kahun, Marody, Dorofeyev, Paul, Lizotte, Fox, ¨Perunovich, Beaudin, Rosen, Walker, Brook
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    Default Re: Tolvanen, Necas or Klostin

    Necas
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    Tolvanen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    I've got wiser to drafting guys I liked before the draft, after they slipped in the actual draft. I let Tolvanen and Kostin slip down my draft rankings after watching the actual draft, just like they slid down in the actual draft. I trust the scouts enough to know they know more than I do in regards to these kids.

    I've always been high on Necas. Nothing has changed for me here. He's my next pick from these three. Of course none of us truly know what player from these three will really turn out to be anything (if any of them) but I have to believe the paid professionals know more than I do.
    +1 to this! I may have overlooked Necas during my draft without extra insight on him. Thanks for sharing Axe!

    Justinsane: try to wacth some game footage and read up on him (do a Google Search and filter out the weeds), you'll see that his game is VERY complete and that the typical knock on him is his frame (not height, just frame)... Once he bulks up he could be a steal at 12 for the Canes! Button had him as low as 3rd in his rankings at some point. I didn't get it then, but now I can see what he saw. Necas' stock didn't drop... it's just that that others rose!
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    C- Crosby, Barzal, Bennett, Schmaltz, Novak
    W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
    D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
    G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka

    Minors:
    F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
    D: Simashev, Willander, Lambos
    G: Schmidt, Rodrigue, DiPietro, Gaudreau, McKay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bass56 View Post
    +1 to this! I may have overlooked Necas during my draft without extra insight on him. Thanks for sharing Axe!

    Justinsane: try to wacth some game footage and read up on him (do a Google Search and filter out the weeds), you'll see that his game is VERY complete and that the typical knock on him is his frame (not height, just frame)... Once he bulks up he could be a steal at 12 for the Canes! Button had him as low as 3rd in his rankings at some point. I didn't get it then, but now I can see what he saw. Necas' stock didn't drop... it's just that that others rose!
    will do! thanks
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    Cats: G, A, P, PPP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK, W, GAA, SV%

    C: Mackinnon, Matthews, Seguin(RW), Stamkos(LW/RW), Couturier
    LW: E. Kane, Pacioretty, Rakell(RW), Miller(RW), Palat, Johnsson
    RW: Voracek, Dadonov(LW), Pavelski(C), Eberle, Olofsson
    D: Burns, Jones, Ristolainen, Gustafsson, Weber, Fowler, D.Toews
    G: Hellebucyk, Varlamov, Mrazek

    Farm: R.Suzuki, Garland, Kostin, A.Thomas, Appleton,     Kahun, Marody, Dorofeyev, Paul, Lizotte, Fox, ¨Perunovich, Beaudin, Rosen, Walker, Brook
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    Default Re: Tolvanen, Necas or Klostin

    I'm still on Kostin here, but Necas is a solid option.
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    Default Re: Tolvanen, Necas or Klostin

    I can't comment because I have a draft starting tomorrow for the WHL, but I'd be looking at the guy guaranteed to play in Europe next year that no one has recommended yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    I can't comment because I have a draft starting tomorrow for the WHL, but I'd be looking at the guy guaranteed to play in Europe next year that no one has recommended yet.
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    C- Crosby, Barzal, Bennett, Schmaltz, Novak
    W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
    D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
    G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka

    Minors:
    F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
    D: Simashev, Willander, Lambos
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    Ok.. So there was only one guy picking before me when I posted this thread.. And he took Necas! So.. Who should I take, I'm leaning towards Kostin but Thomas, Tolvanen, Chytil, Joseph, Poehling and Frost are also available. *Got Makar as my first pick so I'm looking at a FWd only for this pick.

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    Cats: G, A, P, PPP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK, W, GAA, SV%

    C: Mackinnon, Matthews, Seguin(RW), Stamkos(LW/RW), Couturier
    LW: E. Kane, Pacioretty, Rakell(RW), Miller(RW), Palat, Johnsson
    RW: Voracek, Dadonov(LW), Pavelski(C), Eberle, Olofsson
    D: Burns, Jones, Ristolainen, Gustafsson, Weber, Fowler, D.Toews
    G: Hellebucyk, Varlamov, Mrazek

    Farm: R.Suzuki, Garland, Kostin, A.Thomas, Appleton,     Kahun, Marody, Dorofeyev, Paul, Lizotte, Fox, ¨Perunovich, Beaudin, Rosen, Walker, Brook
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    I'd gamble on Kostin
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    If you are going to gamble, gamble on the kid who was rising as the draft was coming in, not the kids who were slipping.

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    Is Yamamoto available?
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    C- Crosby, Barzal, Bennett, Schmaltz, Novak
    W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
    D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
    G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka

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    F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bass56 View Post
    Is Yamamoto available?
    Nope he went like 8th..
    I had to choose so I went with my second best from the start, Kostin.
    Thanks all for your help.
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    Cats: G, A, P, PPP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK, W, GAA, SV%

    C: Mackinnon, Matthews, Seguin(RW), Stamkos(LW/RW), Couturier
    LW: E. Kane, Pacioretty, Rakell(RW), Miller(RW), Palat, Johnsson
    RW: Voracek, Dadonov(LW), Pavelski(C), Eberle, Olofsson
    D: Burns, Jones, Ristolainen, Gustafsson, Weber, Fowler, D.Toews
    G: Hellebucyk, Varlamov, Mrazek

    Farm: R.Suzuki, Garland, Kostin, A.Thomas, Appleton,     Kahun, Marody, Dorofeyev, Paul, Lizotte, Fox, ¨Perunovich, Beaudin, Rosen, Walker, Brook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinsane87 View Post
    Nope he went like 8th..
    I had to choose so I went with my second best from the start, Kostin.
    Thanks all for your help.
    Good choice!
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    Scoring Cats: G-A-PTS-PPG-PPA-(+/-)-HITS-BLK-SHP-SOG-FOW-GWG / W-L-SVS-SV%-GAA-SO

    C- Crosby, Barzal, Bennett, Schmaltz, Novak
    W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
    D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
    G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka

    Minors:
    F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
    D: Simashev, Willander, Lambos
    G: Schmidt, Rodrigue, DiPietro, Gaudreau, McKay
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