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    Quote Originally Posted by dejeanneret View Post
    So I see that Todd Gurley recently went in our mock. Let's talk about him for a minute:

    Supremely talented.
    Should still be a workhorse.
    Team is finally rid of bungling Jeff Fisher.

    But still on what looks to be a very subpar team.
    Who knows if Goff is even remotely competent.
    Even if he is, do their receivers scare anyone enough to prevent Gurley from running into insanely stacked fronts all year again?
    Has their O-line improved at all?

    I ask because I'm working on a deal to buy him in my dynasty league. Despite his very poor season last year, he won't come cheaply. I'm intrigued because I believe in his talent. But I'm still leery about his long term outlook given the (lack of) surrounding talent.

    What's the thinking on him in these parts?

    i think Gurley has a bounce back season. He is super talented and the coach in stard should have had all off season to determine strategy to get him the ball outside when teams stack the box.

    I also thing the coaching change and the more experience for Goff should help this. I am hoping that turkey can become a receiving back as their has been some speculation that he will see more third down work and passing plays.
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    this is the first draft I've done where I'm upset I didn't get Gronk at his draft position. Usually he's too high for my liking but 3rd round is what I wanted him at.
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    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Damn, i was typing this morning that i rather crowell than Gurley then thought, better not say anything just in case someone picks him based on my comments. Damn.
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    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    Damn, i was typing this morning that i rather crowell than Gurley then thought, better not say anything just in case someone picks him based on my comments. Damn.
    I think I would still rather have Gurley because Duke Johnson will still eat into some of Crowell's touches.

    Is anyone around to make my next pick for me... I can give you a short list... the one right after pmorrow's pick... I have a golf tournament that starts in about an hour and my guess is pmorrow will be on in the afternoon to make his pick!

    If so let me know and I Will pm you my short list of 2 players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinHunter View Post
    I think I would still rather have Gurley because Duke Johnson will still eat into some of Crowell's touches.

    Is anyone around to make my next pick for me... I can give you a short list... the one right after pmorrow's pick... I have a golf tournament that starts in about an hour and my guess is pmorrow will be on in the afternoon to make his pick!

    If so let me know and I Will pm you my short list of 2 players.
    Browns line is gooooood this yr tho, and Duke is apparently going to line up in the slot a lot this yr (PS for PPR guys)
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    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    I'm also in the camp that I'd rather have Gurley. But I do like Crowell too. I have them within 3 spots of each other. Think they basically went in the expected spots in this mock (unfortunately for me as it turns out).
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    W: Ovechkin/Toffoli/Necas/Giroux/E.Kane/K.Johnson(IR)/Schmaltz/Bjorkstrand/Drouin
    D: Dobson/Trouba(IR)/Mintyukov/Gostisbehere/Martinez/Edvinsson/York/Gudas(IR)/Tanev
    G: Saros/Demko(IR)/Askarov/DeSmith

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    I meant to type "gronk would not have made it past the turn"

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    ANNNNDDDD Watkins just became interesting.
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    W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA

    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    ANNNNDDDD Watkins just became interesting.
    Gurley moves up my board.
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    C: MacKinnon/Eichel/Kopitar//Pinto/Wright
    W: Ovechkin/Toffoli/Necas/Giroux/E.Kane/K.Johnson(IR)/Schmaltz/Bjorkstrand/Drouin
    D: Dobson/Trouba(IR)/Mintyukov/Gostisbehere/Martinez/Edvinsson/York/Gudas(IR)/Tanev
    G: Saros/Demko(IR)/Askarov/DeSmith

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejeanneret View Post
    Gurley moves up my board.
    ya, he just came closer to Crowell in my eyes. And like previously stated I thought Crowell was ahead of Gurley, but now with Gurley's upside and some legit help at WR for Goff, Gurley is a tie with Crowell for me. Mid-Late 3rd up to late 2nd, early 3rd round.
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    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Not to be lost in the fallout from the Bills' moves today, it's also likely to positively impact Jordan Matthews's value. Goes from being the slot guy on the Eagles (and, at best the third read) to likely the #1 target option in Buffalo.
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    W: Ovechkin/Toffoli/Necas/Giroux/E.Kane/K.Johnson(IR)/Schmaltz/Bjorkstrand/Drouin
    D: Dobson/Trouba(IR)/Mintyukov/Gostisbehere/Martinez/Edvinsson/York/Gudas(IR)/Tanev
    G: Saros/Demko(IR)/Askarov/DeSmith

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    ANNNNDDDD Watkins just became interesting.
    lol..."interesting" is one word to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomm Bastic View Post
    lol..."interesting" is one word to use.
    Call me crazy, but I actually like this series of transactions for the Bills.

    Clearly, the Bills had concerns about Watkins ability to stay healthy -- hence, their refusal to pick the fifth year option earlier this offseason.

    As a result, at best, Sammy stays healthy this year, has a monster season and the Bills have to pay an absolute fortune to resign him as a free agent. But even if he stayed healthy this season, what's to say that health is the new norm for him or, even if it is, that the Bills wouldn't have been outbid to resign him in any event.

    With this move, the Bills got themselves a 2nd round pick and a CB that gave them enough comfort to move Darby. By moving Darby, they got themselves a 3rd round pick and a receiver who, while certainly not in Watkins' class, has shown that he can play in a meaningful role in the league.

    Don't get me wrong, it'd be better if Watkins had been everything right off the bat that the Bills thought he would be when they gave up a two first rounders to move up and take him ahead of OBJ and Evans. But after apparently concluding that their gamble didn't pay off, they've nokw made some moves to recoup some of that investmenot and hopefully position themselves to move forward.

    At least that's how my homerism is allowing me to see things at the moment.
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    Weekly Starts (3C, 5W, 5D, 1Util, 2G)
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    C: MacKinnon/Eichel/Kopitar//Pinto/Wright
    W: Ovechkin/Toffoli/Necas/Giroux/E.Kane/K.Johnson(IR)/Schmaltz/Bjorkstrand/Drouin
    D: Dobson/Trouba(IR)/Mintyukov/Gostisbehere/Martinez/Edvinsson/York/Gudas(IR)/Tanev
    G: Saros/Demko(IR)/Askarov/DeSmith

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejeanneret View Post
    Call me crazy, but I actually like this series of transactions for the Bills.

    Clearly, the Bills had concerns about Watkins ability to stay healthy -- hence, their refusal to pick the fifth year option earlier this offseason.

    As a result, at best, Sammy stays healthy this year, has a monster season and the Bills have to pay an absolute fortune to resign him as a free agent. But even if he stayed healthy this season, what's to say that health is the new norm for him or, even if it is, that the Bills wouldn't have been outbid to resign him in any event.

    With this move, the Bills got themselves a 2nd round pick and a CB that gave them enough comfort to move Darby. By moving Darby, they got themselves a 3rd round pick and a receiver who, while certainly not in Watkins' class, has shown that he can play in a meaningful role in the league.

    Don't get me wrong, it'd be better if Watkins had been everything right off the bat that the Bills thought he would be when they gave up a two first rounders to move up and take him ahead of OBJ and Evans. But after apparently concluding that their gamble didn't pay off, they've nokw made some moves to recoup some of that investmenot and hopefully position themselves to move forward.

    At least that's how my homerism is allowing me to see things at the moment.
    Agreed. Bills get depth at WR and now have 2 firsts, 2 seconds and 2 thirds in 2018. I was merely referring to Watkins fantasy value. I think it tanks on the Rams. Run first/heavy defense ball control scheme with a QB that looked like shit last year? That's no good imo
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