Reply With QuoteI'd keep Werenski and Ristolainen. Both are young guys who do more than just put up points; something your league counts. I too am leary of Letang's injury history.
Keeping D Men
I've been fortunate to have built a good stable of D men this past season. However now comes the problem of who to keep.
Can only keep two, who would you keep?
Letang
Werenski
Fowler
Trouba
Ristolainen
Is this simply a matter of best value I can get in a trade?
I'm not sure if I'll get much for Letang (My league tends to shy from his injury history)
I think my leaning is some combo of Risto/Letang/Werenski
Thoughts?
14 team H2H Partial Keeper 23/24 - Season 14
Keep: 2C, 2LW, 2RW, 2D, 1G and 1 Wild
Stats: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK, W, GAA, SV%, SHO
C - Trochek, Malkin, Scheifele, Seguin, Novak
LW - J Robertson, M.Tkachuk, Barbashev, Sherwood
RW - Kirill Kaprizov, Tippett, Evangelista, McBain
D - Bouchard, K Miller, Valimaki, Forsling, Chabot
G - Sorokin, Copley
IR - Thompson, Svechnikov
Re: Keeping D Men
I'd keep Werenski and Ristolainen. Both are young guys who do more than just put up points; something your league counts. I too am leary of Letang's injury history.
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16 team, points only. G: 2-W, 4-SO.
Top 9F, 4D & 1G . Keep 15, Max 23
F: J. Robertson, J. Hughes, Tavares, Lafreniere, Cozens, Newhook, Teravainen, Domi, R. Strome, Laine, Rossi, Raymond, Holtz, Perfetti
D: Bouchard, McAvoy, Morrissey, Heiskanen
G: Vasilevskiy
Re: Keeping D Men
Letang and Risto, when healthy, are easily top 10 d-men in this format. They are must keeps. Parlay Werenki's breakout into a trade for help at other positions. You might even be able to trade Trouba - who also is great in this format - to someone on the basis of his very solid second half.
Also, I'll tell you what I tell other poolies who face similarly tough situations where they have to let great players go - if you were smart enough to land players of this caliber in the first place, you'll be able to do so yet again.
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Re: Keeping D Men
Ristolainen for sure - he's a stud in your format.
I'd go Letang next. He's not only a stud when he plays but still holds high value. If you're scared of injury - then Werenski.
H2H Dynasty, 16 Team Salary: G, A, PPP, SOG, Hits, BKS, SHTOI, W, Sv%, Saves, GA%, (4C, 4RW, 4LW, 6D, 1G)
C: Crosby, Malkin, Larkin, Hartman, McBain, Joshua
RW: Rantanen, Konecny, Strome, Batherson, Zetterland
LW: Buchnevich, Ehlers, Marchessault, Bertuzzi, Acciari
D: McNabb, Ferraro, Hakanpaa, Lyabushkin, Samuelsson, Bernard-Docker, Emberson
G: Merzlikens, Daccord, Samsonov
Prospects: Kurich, Lucius, Pelletier, Cristall, Yurov, Beckman, Brisson, Dean, Phillips, Poitras
Re: Keeping D Men
you WILL keep Ristolainen and the other should be Letang despite the injuries because none of the others touch him when he plays. Trouba is interesting outlier hard to keep over others like Zack but your format he is no slouch.
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(G,A,PIM,PPP,GWG,FOW,SOG,HIT, BLK)(W,SV,SO,GAA,SV%)
F:B.Tkachuk,Alien,Stutzle,Miller,Connor,Guentzel,Sv ech,Thomas,Rust,Jenner,Bennett,Tolvanen,Danault,Sc hwartz,Arvidsson
D:Carlson,Nurse,Theodore,Matheson,Harley,Pettersson
G:Jarry,Kotchetkov,Stolarz
IR:Gudas,Vilardi
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G(4),A(2),PIM(1),PPP(2),SHP(3.5),GWG(2),SOG(.5),FO W(.25),FOL(-.25),HIT(.75),BLK(.5) G:W(6)L(-4)GA(-2)SV(.5)SHO(4)
C: Ziba,Tro,Kempe,Vilardi
L: Drai,Forsberg,Tolvanen,Nyquist
RW: Tippett,Boldy,Meier,Raymond
D: Josi,McAvoy,Carlson,Theodore,Faber,Montour,Sanderson
G: Shest,Kotchetkov
Re: Keeping D Men
Thanks all,
Its certainly a good problem to have! I was leaning towards Risto as well, but this confirmation really helps!
14 team H2H Partial Keeper 23/24 - Season 14
Keep: 2C, 2LW, 2RW, 2D, 1G and 1 Wild
Stats: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK, W, GAA, SV%, SHO
C - Trochek, Malkin, Scheifele, Seguin, Novak
LW - J Robertson, M.Tkachuk, Barbashev, Sherwood
RW - Kirill Kaprizov, Tippett, Evangelista, McBain
D - Bouchard, K Miller, Valimaki, Forsling, Chabot
G - Sorokin, Copley
IR - Thompson, Svechnikov
Re: Keeping D Men
Letang... and well I'm a Trouba believer. I think he and Risto are a toss up. With Buf having a new coach, no guarantees that PP keeps producing at the same clip as last year. I prefer Trouba personally (yep minority call)
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Re: Keeping D Men
I'd agree with the general sentiment that Risto and Letang are the big values here, but Werenski is no slouch. I'd shop Werenski and Letang, and see what nets you the better return.
Re: Keeping D Men
Ristolainen should be a lock. Then I'd go Letang. Getting half a season from him and half a season from whoever you pick from FA when Letang is injured should still give you more value from that slot than what you'd probably get with Werenski. If you're in rebuild mode it's Werenski though - but I wouldn't be surprised if he'd feel the sophomore slump...
Not sure if it's possible, but what I'd first try to do is to trade one of the mentioned three Ds for a good RW you can take as a keeper instead of Foligno.... It's a shame to give away a good D for nothing while keeping a sub par RW....
24 team H2H dynasty, fantasy points, no cap
Skaters: G 4.5 (5 for Ds), A 3, PPG 1.5 (2 for Ds), PPA 1 (1.5 for Ds), SHP 2, Ft 2, HIT 0.6, BLK 0.6, SOG 0.3 (0.4 for Ds), FW 0.1, Tk 0.5 // Gv -0.3
Goalies: W 3.5, SHO 5, SV 0.5, A 3 // GA -3, L -1.5
4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G, 4BN, 4IR
C: McDavid, MacKinnon, Hischier
LW: B.Tkachuk, Ovechkin, Paul(C), Jankowski(C)
LW/RW: Meier, Fiala, Giroux(C), Niederreiter
RW: Reinhart, Anderson, Armia
D: Josi, Matheson, Durzi, Moser, Cernak, Zadorov, Siegenthaler
G: Daccord, Merzlikins, Vanecek, Pickard
44 minors; most noteables: A.Schmid, E.Andrae, M.Kesselring, S.Malinski, B.Pachal, L.Stanley, L.Bichsel, E.Soderblom,...
Re: Keeping D Men
I'm keeping Ristolainen and Werenski. Both are young and haven't shown any injury concerns.
Re: Keeping D Men
Those categories letang and Risto and I take the risk
Experience is the teacher of all things.
Re: Keeping D Men
I have had so many frustrating times with Letang, so he's off the list.
Ristolainen is crazy good at Hits and Blocks and is an easy first choice. After that it's a tougher call.
Fowler sucks at hitting so take him off the list.
Down to Trouba and Werenski. Don't think you can go wrong with either but what Werenski did as a rookie is phenomenal, even if he takes a step back. So I choose him.
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