in a straight points league i would definitely do this trade. Tarasenko is safe for 70-75 pts while Kaner is in another Tier 80-90 pts. Kane is still only 27 and got lots of good hockey years left in him.
Who is the better own in a points league?
1st teamC: S. Aho, E. Malkin, W. Karllson, B. Nelson
LW: B. Marchand, A. Ovechkin, J. Zucker, N. Niederreiter, A. Svechnikov,
RW: D. Perron, J. Kyrou, C. Keller, D. Strome, T. Toffoli, C. Perfetti,
D: j. Carlson, D. Hamilton, R. Andersson, F. Hronek,J. Spurgeon
G: , C. Hellybuck, J. Ottinger, A. Vasilevskiy
2nd team
C: E. Lindholm, J. Pavelski, JT Miller, R. Johansen, A. Killorn, B. Jenner(IR)
LW: , B. Marchand, A. Mangiapane, T. Toffoli, J. Gaudreau
RW: P. Kane, Pasta, D. Perron, T. Wilson, N. Schmaltz, M. Tkackuk
D: J. Carlson, A. Pietriangelo, C. McAvoy, N. Schmidt, J. Trouba, J. Morrissey
G: J. Markstrom, C. Hellybuyck, T. Jarry
in a straight points league i would definitely do this trade. Tarasenko is safe for 70-75 pts while Kaner is in another Tier 80-90 pts. Kane is still only 27 and got lots of good hockey years left in him.
Bottleneckers (12/16 in 2022)
16 team, points only. G: 2-W, 4-SO.
Top 9F, 4D & 1G . Keep 15, Max 23
F: J. Robertson, J. Hughes, Tavares, Lafreniere, Cozens, Newhook, Teravainen, Domi, R. Strome, Laine, Rossi, Raymond, Holtz, Perfetti
D: Bouchard, McAvoy, Morrissey, Heiskanen
G: Vasilevskiy
Points league, goals and assists are 1 point, bonus point for power play points. The owner of both Kane and Panarin has stated that he might be willing to trade them, now that they aren't linemates anymore. Trying to figure out how to pry them away from him. lol He said he would need both Benn and Seguin in the trade which is a no-go from me. I started low, but Tarasenko might get him interested. Just wanted to check to see if Kane is a big upgrade over Kane.
1st teamC: S. Aho, E. Malkin, W. Karllson, B. Nelson
LW: B. Marchand, A. Ovechkin, J. Zucker, N. Niederreiter, A. Svechnikov,
RW: D. Perron, J. Kyrou, C. Keller, D. Strome, T. Toffoli, C. Perfetti,
D: j. Carlson, D. Hamilton, R. Andersson, F. Hronek,J. Spurgeon
G: , C. Hellybuck, J. Ottinger, A. Vasilevskiy
2nd team
C: E. Lindholm, J. Pavelski, JT Miller, R. Johansen, A. Killorn, B. Jenner(IR)
LW: , B. Marchand, A. Mangiapane, T. Toffoli, J. Gaudreau
RW: P. Kane, Pasta, D. Perron, T. Wilson, N. Schmaltz, M. Tkackuk
D: J. Carlson, A. Pietriangelo, C. McAvoy, N. Schmidt, J. Trouba, J. Morrissey
G: J. Markstrom, C. Hellybuyck, T. Jarry
Yes, I want Kane here.
He obviously likes his pairs, so is it too bad you didnt have another Blue on your team to entice him even more.
12 Team H2H Keeper
4C~4LW~4RW~6D~2G~4 Reserves
3 FA adds per week
8 Keepers~10 minors
IR
10 Minors = Skaters <83 GP & Goalies <51 GP
Categories: G~A~P~PPP~SOG~FOW~+/-~Hits~Blk~W~Svs~S%~GAA
C-Barkov~Zibanejad
C/RW- Reinhart
LW-B.Tkachuk~Kaprizov~E.Kane~Pacioretty
RW-P. Kane
LW/RW-Svechnikov~Fiala
D-Makar~Fox~Dahlin~Bouchard-Hamilton
G-Hellebuyck~Shesterkin~Ingram
MINORS:
Forwards-Rossi~Pelletier~Holloway~Marchenko
DMen-B.Clarke~Nemec~Nikishin
Goalies-Wallstedt~Wolf~Dostal
Does the value change if the trade is Tarasenko and 9th overall for Kane and 21st overall? I would be trading Tarasenko but at the moment, I have picks #3, 8 and 9th. So trading 9th overall, I would still have 3 and 8.
Does that change the winner of the trade, or is Kane worth it?
10 team league.
1st teamC: S. Aho, E. Malkin, W. Karllson, B. Nelson
LW: B. Marchand, A. Ovechkin, J. Zucker, N. Niederreiter, A. Svechnikov,
RW: D. Perron, J. Kyrou, C. Keller, D. Strome, T. Toffoli, C. Perfetti,
D: j. Carlson, D. Hamilton, R. Andersson, F. Hronek,J. Spurgeon
G: , C. Hellybuck, J. Ottinger, A. Vasilevskiy
2nd team
C: E. Lindholm, J. Pavelski, JT Miller, R. Johansen, A. Killorn, B. Jenner(IR)
LW: , B. Marchand, A. Mangiapane, T. Toffoli, J. Gaudreau
RW: P. Kane, Pasta, D. Perron, T. Wilson, N. Schmaltz, M. Tkackuk
D: J. Carlson, A. Pietriangelo, C. McAvoy, N. Schmidt, J. Trouba, J. Morrissey
G: J. Markstrom, C. Hellybuyck, T. Jarry
Last year I traded Kane Vatanen for M. Reilly and Tarasenko. I think Tarasenko will catch up soon enough to Kane points wise
Bottleneckers (12/16 in 2022)
16 team, points only. G: 2-W, 4-SO.
Top 9F, 4D & 1G . Keep 15, Max 23
F: J. Robertson, J. Hughes, Tavares, Lafreniere, Cozens, Newhook, Teravainen, Domi, R. Strome, Laine, Rossi, Raymond, Holtz, Perfetti
D: Bouchard, McAvoy, Morrissey, Heiskanen
G: Vasilevskiy
The picks are for 2017 draftees plus any players that weren't designated as keepers. So 10 teams, 20 keepers each, top 200 kept, everyone else back into the draft. Last year, radulov, vasielivsky and aho were taken at 8,9 and 10 respectively. There should be decent guys to fill out my bench if I do my homework. But still having #3 and #8, does that allow the option of trading #9 to upgrade from Tarasenko to Kane and is that enough of a player upgrade to warrant losing that pick?
1st teamC: S. Aho, E. Malkin, W. Karllson, B. Nelson
LW: B. Marchand, A. Ovechkin, J. Zucker, N. Niederreiter, A. Svechnikov,
RW: D. Perron, J. Kyrou, C. Keller, D. Strome, T. Toffoli, C. Perfetti,
D: j. Carlson, D. Hamilton, R. Andersson, F. Hronek,J. Spurgeon
G: , C. Hellybuck, J. Ottinger, A. Vasilevskiy
2nd team
C: E. Lindholm, J. Pavelski, JT Miller, R. Johansen, A. Killorn, B. Jenner(IR)
LW: , B. Marchand, A. Mangiapane, T. Toffoli, J. Gaudreau
RW: P. Kane, Pasta, D. Perron, T. Wilson, N. Schmaltz, M. Tkackuk
D: J. Carlson, A. Pietriangelo, C. McAvoy, N. Schmidt, J. Trouba, J. Morrissey
G: J. Markstrom, C. Hellybuyck, T. Jarry
I would argue that the 15-20 point gain could be diluted heavily by going from 9 to 21 (so much so you may lose overall) so really depends what you can get at 21...
Experience is the teacher of all things.
I'll go against the grain only because of age in that Kane is 28.5 and Tarasenko is 25 so overall you're going to get more high end years more than likely going here forth from Vlad.
Girouxsalem
(G,A,PIM,PPP,GWG,FOW,SOG,HIT, BLK)(W,SV,SO,GAA,SV%)
F:B.Tkachuk,Alien,Stutzle,Miller,Connor,Guentzel,Sv ech,Thomas,Rust,Jenner,Bennett,Tolvanen,Danault,Sc hwartz,Arvidsson
D:Carlson,Nurse,Theodore,Matheson,Harley,Pettersson
G:Jarry,Kotchetkov,Stolarz
IR:Gudas,Vilardi
ThePeterNorthStars
G(4),A(2),PIM(1),PPP(2),SHP(3.5),GWG(2),SOG(.5),FO W(.25),FOL(-.25),HIT(.75),BLK(.5) G:W(6)L(-4)GA(-2)SV(.5)SHO(4)
C: Ziba,Tro,Kempe,Vilardi
L: Drai,Forsberg,Tolvanen,Nyquist
RW: Tippett,Boldy,Meier,Raymond
D: Josi,McAvoy,Carlson,Theodore,Faber,Montour,Sanderson
G: Shest,Kotchetkov
Even with the picks I'd still want the Kane side.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
"Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."
Points only is easily Kane.
12 team H-2-H 1 year league, daily roster changes, 3 goalie start minimum/week
2xC, 2xRW, 2xLW, 4xD, 3xUtil, 2xG, 5 Bench
G, A, P, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, W, SV%, GAA, SVs
C: C. Keller, C. Mittelstadt, B. Nelson, R. Strome,
LW: K. Connor, B. Tkachuk, J. Gaudreau, J. Marchessault, E. Rodrigues, A. Lafreniere
RW: K. Fiala, J. Bratt, T. Jeannot V. Arvidsson
D: R. Josi, J. Trouba, E. Gustafsson,
G: L. Thompson, F. Gustavsson, V. Vanecek
NO IR
Put me down in the Pat Kane camp too.
For all his shenanigans, Patty Kane is a very intelligent on-ice player.
Tank has better tools, but Kane's smarts allow him to excel with lesser skilled linemates... he's never even really had THAT good a C2 ever to play with.
Hockey smarts don't age... and actually a lot of Kane's points are unrelated to youth.
While I like Tarasenko, I also think that his youth & energy nets him a certain number of points.
CHI is top-level heavy, which is great for top 6 forwards and PP1 players.
STL still has their money distributed a bit more, maybe better team going forward, but not necessarily better stats.
Another plus for Pat Kane... I think he may actually get a chance to score more if the team starts to get behind more often.
More chance to take risks and go for tying it up.
His age ain't a thing here. (and the 9 vs 21 pick ain't much difference if you have keepers... difference in a 60pt player and a 58pt player... meh.)