[Rumour] Hurricanes dangling Hanifin

[RizzeeDizzee]

Galchenyuk is indeed a center......who can't take draws. Hence the issue.

[lucafen4]

Galchenyuk is indeed a center......who can't take draws. Hence the issue.

about as bad at draws as Kuznetsov. neither were 40% this year were they?

[Rustyrug]

I don't think there's any evidence to say Galchenyuk is a guaranteed top line talent. He for sure still has the potential to be, but there is zero definitive evidence that he is one.

Before he hurt his knee, he was having a great year. Just never got it back when he returned. Maybe he is not very good on faceoffs, but that is a skill that can be learned.

[lucafen4]

Before he hurt his knee, he was having a great year. Just never got it back when he returned. Maybe he is not very good on faceoffs, but that is a skill that can be learned.

good on draws for Galchenyuk will be 44% A career year he might creep to 47%... that's best case scenario... I think he's got top line talent, I just don't know if he's got the consistent drive to achieve it.

[rataylor22]

Before he hurt his knee, he was having a great year. Just never got it back when he returned. Maybe he is not very good on faceoffs, but that is a skill that can be learned.

Sure. I think he's a top line talent and I think he's really good. Think. I'm in the camp that Montreal should make him their 1C and keep him.

But he certainly hasn't shown enough to say he's "unquestionably" a top line player. There's a lot of questions there.

[Jouko-Pouko]

Sure. I think he's a top line talent and I think he's really good. Think. I'm in the camp that Montreal should make him their 1C and keep him.

But he certainly hasn't shown enough to say he's "unquestionably" a top line player. There's a lot of questions there.

That exactly is why it's a bad idea to trade Galchenyuk now. He hasn't proven himself yet, so other teams are not going to pay full price for him based on potential alone. Montreal would be better off keeping Galchenyuk but I think that bridge might be burnt already and they're just trying to get whatever they can at this point.

[Axeman33]

That exactly is why it's a bad idea to trade Galchenyuk now. He hasn't proven himself yet, so other teams are not going to pay full price for him based on potential alone. Montreal would be better off keeping Galchenyuk but I think that bridge might be burnt already and they're just trying to get whatever they can at this point.

Couldn't you say the same about Hanifin?

[rataylor22]

That exactly is why it's a bad idea to trade Galchenyuk now. He hasn't proven himself yet, so other teams are not going to pay full price for him based on potential alone. Montreal would be better off keeping Galchenyuk but I think that bridge might be burnt already and they're just trying to get whatever they can at this point.

I agree.

Couldn't you say the same about Hanifin?

Does Hanifin have negative underperformance connotations with him? I don't think you'd be selling low on Hanifin, but I do think you would on Galchenyuk.

[Mr. Guru]

What do the Leafs add to JVR to land Hanifin?

[Axeman33]

I agree.



Does Hanifin have negative underperformance connotations with him? I don't think you'd be selling low on Hanifin, but I do think you would on Galchenyuk.

Fair enough. I was just referring more towards moving them before they've come close to reaching their potential. I think both have that in common right now.

[lucafen4]

What do the Leafs add to JVR to land Hanifin?

a 1st maybe a prospect as well. JVR would need an extension for it to work

[Jouko-Pouko]

Couldn't you say the same about Hanifin?

If they are expecting other teams to value Hanifin as top-pair D-man, then absolutely. But I think Carolina is having a more reasonable asking price for him, selling him as a top-4 defenseman with upside. If they're happy with the return they'll get with that, then there's no problem.

Of course one big difference is that Hanifin has proven he can play his position ('D') at the NHL level whereas Galchenyuk hasn't proven that if they're selling him as a center. Other teams can't pay full "center" price if they don't know he can play that.

If Montreal would sell Galchenyuk as top-6 forward with upside instead of top-line center, and they're happy with that return they get on that, then I'm sure they'll get a deal done. It's just a matter of asking price and what you're happy with in return.

[donpaulo]

Isn't Burnaby Joe on record as saying he didn't like the offers he got for Duchene so far ?

[The Black Panther]

Um.

Double Um

[The Black Panther]

That exactly is why it's a bad idea to trade Galchenyuk now. He hasn't proven himself yet, so other teams are not going to pay full price for him based on potential alone. Montreal would be better off keeping Galchenyuk but I think that bridge might be burnt already and they're just trying to get whatever they can at this point.

I agree but sometimes when a player knows the teams trying to move him and don't due to not getting the return it can really mess up things
Really tough situation.

Edit haha maybe I should read whole post as that I think was the pointy were trying to get across.