[TRADE] Panrin/Saad flip spots

[rataylor22]

Full trade is now in the OP.

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FWIW, I think Chicago is much worse than they were 2 hours ago. Panarin is a way better player than Saad.

[StuntMan12]

dam, wonder how well panarin does without Kane by his side next season. big trade for sure

[rataylor22]

Frank Seravalli‏ @frank_seravalli

Belief is Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane let it be known to #Hawks how much they missed Saad. They loved him.

Apparently Kane hates Panarin.

[cheese_cake]

I'm not so much of a Chicago fan, so I don't know if the real life value of those players are lower than what I thought it was, but I just don't understand why CHI would trade a 1st liner + top 4 def (even top 2 according to some) for I what I would consider lesser additions. Is there something I don't see here?

[StuntMan12]

I'm not so much of a Chicago fan, so I don't know if the real life value of those players are lower than what I thought it was, but I just don't understand why CHI would trade a 1st liner + top 4 (even top 2 according to some) for I what I would consider lesser additions. Is there something I don't see here?

im thinking the same thing. unless he wasn't getting along with others in the locker room....like kane

[rataylor22]

Greg Wyshynski @wyshynski 1m

I'd like to formally thank Pekka Rinne for apparently driving Stan Bowman insane.

Here here

[Jouko-Pouko]

I'm not so much of a Chicago fan, so I don't know if the real life value of those players are lower than what I thought it was, but I just don't understand why CHI would trade a 1st liner + top 4 def (even top 2 according to some) for I what I would consider lesser additions. Is there something I don't see here?

Blackhawks downgraded their 2nd best winger and 2nd best D-man, and only gained $250k of cap space. I don't understand it either. Maybe they don't like Europeans?

[Mr. Guru]

Would it have been better to sell super high on Toews/Kane rather than sign them to $+10M deals?

It takes HUGE balls to do something like this, but looking back would anyone object to this direction?

Depends greatly on the return you could have gotten, but the deals Toews/Kane signed is clearly making it very difficult for the Hawks to conduct business.

As a Leafs fan, I hope this is something our players can look at and hopefully they all take discounts to keep a winning team together for longer than 5ish years. Having said that, the Hawks deserve massive credit for how long they've been contenders under the cap era.

[RizzeeDizzee]

Panarin was what he was on Chicago, and was about to get lots more expensive. And let's not forget that Saad, despite his longer NHL tensure, is younger than Panarin.

[vallaird]

Panarin-Wennberg-Atkinson will make a great first line.

[2014olympicgold]

Pekka Rinne drove Bowman insane in that first round. Ony explanation.

[MasterByte]

Chicago's fall from grace is happening alot faster than expected

[rataylor22]

Would it have been better to sell super high on Toews/Kane rather than sign them to $+10M deals?

It takes HUGE balls to do something like this, but looking back would anyone object to this direction?

Depends greatly on the return you could have gotten, but the deals Toews/Kane signed is clearly making it very difficult for the Hawks to conduct business.

As a Leafs fan, I hope this is something our players can look at and hopefully they all take discounts to keep a winning team together for longer than 5ish years. Having said that, the Hawks deserve massive credit for how long they've been contenders under the cap era.

Agreed.

Can't wait back until we look back in two years and people are saying this about Ovechkin.

Toews and Kane are massively overpaid for what they provide, and Chicago will not be able to properly compete with those contracts.

[StuntMan12]

with saad they made 3 straight deep playoff runs
as soon as panarin came to chicago they never went past the 1st round

not saying it's all his fault but they must really love the way saad plays or something to get him back at all costs.

[MasterByte]

Agreed.

Can't wait back until we look back in two years and people are saying this about Ovechkin.

Toews and Kane are massively overpaid for what they provide, and Chicago will not be able to properly compete with those contracts.

Highly overpaid, but they would have really shaken / lost the fan base with moves like that.