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    Thinking about throwing an offer to the Erik Karlsson owner. Too much? Too little? They are a rebuilding team and don't have much.

    Labanc/Puljujarvi
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    First round pick 2017 NHL entry draft (top 5)
    Second round pick 2018 NHL entry draft

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    Erik Karlsson
    Any player ( Probably Jaskin)
    Any player (Probably Grigorenko)
    Second round pick 2017 NHL entry draft

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    It's a good start but to me it's not enough since you have no proven player in the package. I would at least remove the 2017 2nd round pick that you ask in return or ask a later pick. I mean you can start with that but I'm a pooler who don't like to receive offers when I think the other guy take me for a fool. I respect good offers from the start. So it d?pends on your style, on your league and how much you know the other pooler. But I'm pretty sure he can get better then the package that you offer for Karlsson.

    If you want an idea, I got Karlson earlier this Summer.

    I gave Shattenkirk, E.Staal, M.Sergachev, A.Debrincat, 2018 2nd round pick for Karlsson and 2018 1st round pick. Two poolers said I won the trade and four said I overpaid. To me the balanced comments say it was the market value. And you have to overpay to get super elite players.

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    I wouldn't touch that offer with a 20 foot pole in my 24 team league.

    Even worse in a smaller league... you need to add an established young stud to get him to bite.

    I'm not moving Karlsson unless I'm getting a younger top 10 dman (Hedman, Hamilton, Werenski, etc) + a top 5 prospect (Keller, Pulj, etc.) + a top 5 pick or two.
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    Maybe instead of montour or deangelo I could put in Gostisbehere

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    If you are going for Karlsson, then I would make an offer for Karlsson only. Don't ask for a bunch of picks/players along with him. You are going to have to overpay just to get Karlsson on his own, let alone expecting the Karlsson owner to include players with him.

    As a Karlsson owner in one of my keepers, you are offering some nice prospects but they are secondary pieces in an offer for Karlsson. I'd want at least one excellent, young, producing player and guys like Puljujarvi, White, Montour would all be add-ons, not the primary piece for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tfan5211 View Post
    Maybe instead of montour or deangelo I could put in Gostisbehere
    That is a start for sure!

    I still wouldn't do it - but if you offered me Gost, Montour, Pulj, White + a top 5 pick I'd have to seriously consider (depending on my own team strategy anyway).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    If you are going for Karlsson, then I would make an offer for Karlsson only. Don't ask for a bunch of picks/players along with him. You are going to have to overpay just to get Karlsson on his own, let alone expecting the Karlsson owner to include players with him.

    As a Karlsson owner in one of my keepers, you are offering some nice prospects but they are secondary pieces in an offer for Karlsson. I'd want at least one excellent, young, producing player and guys like Puljujarvi, White, Montour would all be add-ons, not the primary piece for me.
    Yeah the other pieces I have in there on his side is because it has to be 3 for 3 2 for 2 etc. I can't trade 4 players for 1 or along those lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tfan5211 View Post
    Maybe instead of montour or deangelo I could put in Gostisbehere
    Not really much of an upgrade in my opinion but who knows how Gostisbehere is valued in your league.
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    I offered him

    Ghost or Yandle
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    Puljujarvi or Labanc or Deangelo
    top 5 pick this year
    second round pick next year

    for

    Karlsson
    any player(Jaskin)
    any player(Grigorenko)
    seond round pick this year(15-20 range)

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    I wouldn't even consider this deal tbh if I owned Karlsson.

    Any offer for an elite fantasy asset starts with a proven player that is a tier below elite + a high pick.

    Seems to me like this is a quantity for quality deal but it's too wide.
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    The offer isn't close to landing Karlsson Imo. I guess it never hurts to ask...
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    Sorry, but those are very bad offers. Those are offers I decline without even sending back counters. Looking at your signature, if your offers don't have one of Kucherov/Tarasenko/Eichel in them, I don't trade Karlsson to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondon View Post
    I wouldn't even consider this deal tbh if I owned Karlsson.

    Any offer for an elite fantasy asset starts with a proven player that is a tier below elite + a high pick.

    Seems to me like this is a quantity for quality deal but it's too wide.
    Ok so assuming he rejects. What should be my starting piece/pieces?

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    If the owner is an idiot then sure go in with these lowball offers. Otherwise offer real pieces, not just secondary stuff and prospects. If I owned Karlsson I wouldn't even counter to anything you posted here.


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    I agree with the above comments. If u received an offer like this for karlsson ( I have him by the way) I would want a stud real life player coming back. Your selling a bunch of beans for one of the best players in the league. I wouldn't counter your offer and would reject all corresponding offers afterwards. You need to start with kuch or tank to just get a sniff.

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