Morgan Rielly Potential?

[flyersnducks88]

What is Rielly's potential. I gave up Sam Reinhart to get him so a breakout around 40-45 points is what I was hoping for but Jake Gardiner seems to be Babcocks go-to guy for PP. What do you guys think? Will he pan out?






F: Giroux, Stamkos, Pacioretty, Marchand, Matthews, Turris, Little, Skinner, Zuccarello, Trocheck, Parise, Ehlers, Landeskog
D: D. Keith, Werenski, Ekblad, Morgan Rielly, M. Green, R. Ellis
G: Bobrovsky, Rinne, Elliot

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F: Rantanen, N. Ritchie, Bjorkstrand, C. Keller, Ho-Sang, RNH, F. Vatrano, Buchnevich, Eriksson Ek, Svechnikov, Kamenev, Rick Nash
D: Sergachev, Theodore, Pulock, Jake Bean, Severson, Erik Johnson, Brodie, M. Bowey
G: C. Anderson, S. Varlamov, Thomas Greiss

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[lucafen4]

He's a hard one to peg down. His deployment last year doesn't lean toward huge offensive output. The way Babs used him in the playoffs - does lean more toward a 40+dman. He def. has 40-45 upside, he needs PP time to get there. A lot will depend on who they bring in to fill out their top 4. I probably would have kept Reinhart as I have concerns about his continued deployment with Babs, if he lets him loose, it's a good trade.

[RizzeeDizzee]

Gardiner and Zaitsev are more offensively inclined so they'll get those sheltered and productive minutes, while Rielly gets the Marc-Edouard Vlasic and Alex Goligoski treatment, with the lower production to go along with it. Long story short, if you're hoping for 40-45 points in the near future you should prepare yourself for disappointment.

[flyersnducks88]

Damn. Idk I saw him as having more offensive potential than J. Gardiner or Zaitsev. I realize I took a huge bet on this but damn that kinda sucks lol

[FinnishFlash]

I'm afraid Rielly is entering Pietrangelo territory IMO, meaning that his real life value is starting to vastly exceed his fantasy value.

Rielly has 55 point upside IMO, but to get there he needs all of the PP1 time. Right now, he is the Leafs most responsible top pairing dman in the defensive zone and therefore he is getting the the tough minutes and his fantasy numbers suffer. It's great for the Leafs as he is becoming an all-situation defender, but since they have more one dimensional guys in Zaitsev and Gardiner it means Rielly gets the less favorable matchups.

I think he follows a similar trajectory as Ryan Ellis, mid 30's points wise for a while but the 50+ breakout potential will be there depending on the circumstances.

[VintageVibe]

Gardiner and Zaitsev are more offensively inclined so they'll get those sheltered and productive minutes, while Rielly gets the Marc-Edouard Vlasic and Alex Goligoski treatment, with the lower production to go along with it. Long story short, if you're hoping for 40-45 points in the near future you should prepare yourself for disappointment.

I'd have to agree with everyone above so far - and apologise for repeated remarks.

Rielly is the best all-around Dman they have - he is their Doughty/AP/Josi minus all the PP time. Gardiner is a pure puck moving dman who will get the lion's share of PP time with Zaitsev (RHD).

In the long run, however, Mo's talents will force Babs and co to give him his share of quality PP time as well. You might not see him break into 40+ points for another season or two but it is bound to happen sooner or later.

He is only 23 years old. A lot of D don't come into their own offensively until well into their mid 20's-early 30s - see Brent Burns.

FWIW - I had him in both of my leagues (in sig) but just moved him in the 2nd league for V Rask, K Connor and 4th overall pick. I've got enough faith in the lad to hold onto him in my main league.

[kgray]

I agree with pretty much everything stated above. The Ryan Ellis example is perfect as far as point projections go although I do think he will have a better career by the time it's said and done.

[flyersnducks88]

Thanks a lot for the insight guys. At this point should I hold and see what happens? Or should I consider shopping him for a forward? What kind of return should I be looking at?

[lucafen4]

Thanks a lot for the insight guys. At this point should I hold and see what happens? Or should I consider shopping him for a forward? What kind of return should I be looking at?

I hold... if you move him, I think you're looking at a net loss. I doubt you get a Reinhart in return.

[fantasy junkie]

Would any of you deal your Rielly straight up for Klefbom? I own a bunch of Oilers so adding Kelfbom would be nice. Not sure if the other GM would make the deal but pondering making an offer. Thoughts?

[pmorrow]

Thanks a lot for the insight guys. At this point should I hold and see what happens? Or should I consider shopping him for a forward? What kind of return should I be looking at?

Rielly's best is yet to come. If you deal him now, expect to get a return you'd demand for a 40-45 point player, which is what he should become. He has had to shoulder a lot of defensive responsibility under Babcock but he is capable of growing into a steady 40 pt Ryan Suter type (in terms of production). He is capable of more than that, I think, but he may not go down that road because he is relied upon in a lot of critical defensive situations.

[havanablast21]

Would any of you deal your Rielly straight up for Klefbom? I own a bunch of Oilers so adding Kelfbom would be nice. Not sure if the other GM would make the deal but pondering making an offer. Thoughts?

Rielly for Klefbom? Yes... most certainly I would make That deal without hesitation. Klef is the Gardiner (I thought I better) on that Oiler team. Should have more fantasy value!

[Sulla]

You sure Havanna I'm not so convinced

in in all seriousness I prefer Kelf for boxy season and if he can take advantage of the Sekera injury it may be from here on out every season

[havanablast21]

You sure Havanna I'm not so convinced

in in all seriousness I prefer Kelf for boxy season and if he can take advantage of the Sekera injury it may be from here on out every season

Yeah you are!!!

(also think Reimer will flourish more in Florida this year than Grubauer as the 3rd or 4th in Vegas... ) ... still time to talk

but I digress... what does "boxy" mean/typo of? Next? If so, then I'm definitely on board with Sulla in that the Sekera injury could provide a huge opportunity for Kelfbom to distance himself as "THE GUY" on the blue line in Edmonton. Although, I already think he's there.

[dejeanneret]

Thanks a lot for the insight guys. At this point should I hold and see what happens? Or should I consider shopping him for a forward? What kind of return should I be looking at?

I agree with what the posters before me have said in terms of guessing at how to read the blue line situation in Toronto. Granted, that could change quickly if TOR makes some moves to improve the overall quality of their D-men. But for that reason, I moved Rielly at the end of last season to get some help up front.

It was part of a larger deal, but to give you a sense the main pieces were me sending out Rielly and getting back Hall. But as part of it, I also made sure to get back Gardiner in that deal -- a relatively inexpensive throw in who, for the reasons other have stated, I think *could* end up giving me roughly equal production to Rielly, but with less fanfare.

Like I said, it was part of a larger deal. But Rielly was definitely the primary piece from the other GMs perspective. So my point is that while expectations (to the extent people had them) of him becoming one of the super high flying offensive D-men might be coming back to Earth a bit, I'd be quite careful not to undersell here. Rielly still has significant value and I'd hold him until you get the deal you're excited about accepting.