Reply With QuoteI'm no expert, but including the trade might help.
Trade thoughts
12 teams Dynasty League. H2H pts
Assists (A) Default 2 Assists (A) Defense 3 Blocks (Blk) Default 0.6 Faceoffs Won (FOW) Default 0.1 Giveaways (Gv) Default -0.1 Goals (G) Default 4 Goals (G) Defense 6 Gordie Howe Hat Tricks (GHHT) Default 3 Hat Tricks (HT) Default 7.5 Hits (Hit) Default 0.4 Overtime Goals (OG) Default 2 Penalty Minutes (PIM) Default 0.3 Shots on Goal (SOG) Default 0.1 1st Stars (1Star) Default 1.5 Takeaways (Tk) Default 0.33 Power Play Points (PPP) Default 2 Short Handed Points (SHP) Default 4 Assists (A) Default 2 Goals (G) Default 4 Goals Against (GA) Default -0.25 Saves (SV) Default 0.1 Shutouts (SHO) Default 10 1st Stars (1Star) Default 1.5 Wins (W) Default 6
Trade
I get:
Pickard, Calvin
Draisaitl, Leon
Hamonic, Travis
Lucic, Milan
Hellebuyck, Connor
I give:
Tkachuk, Matthew
Letang, Kris
Talbot, Cam
Palmieri, Kyle
Super young squad. I also have 1st overall pick in rookie draft.
I love Leon but this is definitely a downgrade between the pipes no?
Blah more i look at it....yikes.
Roster & Farm
Pos Player Team C Hertl, Tomas SJ C Kuznetsov, Evgeny WSH C O'Reilly, Ryan BUF C Zacha, Pavel NJ LW Boucher, Reid VAN LW Landeskog, Gabriel COL LW Lee, Anders NYI LW Skinner, Jeff CAR RW Burakovsky, Andre WSH RW Leivo, Josh TOR RW Palmieri, Kyle NJ RW Silfverberg, Jakob ANA D Hedman, Victor TB D Larsson, Adam EDM D Letang, Kris PIT D Parayko, Colton STL D Petrovic, Alex FLA D Rielly, Morgan TOR Skt Manson, Josh ANA Skt Nichushkin, Valeri DAL Bennett, Sam CGY Carlo, Brandon BOS Stecher, Troy VAN Zaitsev, Nikita TOR Ritchie, Nick ANA Barzal, Mathew NYI Caggiula, Drake EDM Czarnik, Austin BOS Sanford, Zach STL Strome, Dylan ARI Agostino, Kenny STL Connor, Kyle WPG Svechnikov, Evgeny DET Tkachev, Vladimir EDM Tkachuk, Matthew CGY Aho, Sebastian CAR Bracco, Jeremy TOR Kapanen, Kasperi TOR Scherbak, Nikita MON Sprong, Daniel PIT Fabbro, Dante NSH Hickey, Brandon CGY Kylington, Oliver CGY Sanheim, Travis PHI Tryamkin, Nikita VAN Vande Sompel, Mitchell NYI DeAngelo, Anthony ARI Point, Brayden TB Subban, Jordan VAN Goalies Pos Player Team G Allen, Jake STL G Varlamov, Semyon COL Talbot, Cam EDM Montembeault, Samuel FLA Nedeljkovic, Alex CAR Sandstrom, Felix PHI Sorokin, Ilya NYI Vasilevskiy, Andrei TB Vladar, Daniel BOS
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Re: Trade thoughts
I'm no expert, but including the trade might help.
14 Team H2H Cap
G A DPTS FOW SOG STP H+B | W SV SV% GAA
C: Scheifele, Stamkos (rw), Tavares
LW: Gaudreau, Giroux (c/rw), Labanc(rw)
RW: Atkinson, Thompson (c), Keller (lw), Glendening (c)
D: Klingberg, Gostisbehere, Dumba, Krug (50%), Trouba, McNabb, Gudas
G: Holtby, Fleury, Markstrom
FARM NOTABLES:
F: Bokk, A Thomas, Kaprizov, Dorofeyev, Mikheyev
D: Dalhin, Beaudin, Dunn, Kylington, Harley
G: Hart, Demko
Re: Trade thoughts
LOLOriginally Posted by SuperMario
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Re: Trade thoughts
That's better - I wouldn't take the deal personally.
You're giving up one of the top goalies, and when healthy (ha), Letang is a beast with the bonus for D points in your league.
14 Team H2H Cap
G A DPTS FOW SOG STP H+B | W SV SV% GAA
C: Scheifele, Stamkos (rw), Tavares
LW: Gaudreau, Giroux (c/rw), Labanc(rw)
RW: Atkinson, Thompson (c), Keller (lw), Glendening (c)
D: Klingberg, Gostisbehere, Dumba, Krug (50%), Trouba, McNabb, Gudas
G: Holtby, Fleury, Markstrom
FARM NOTABLES:
F: Bokk, A Thomas, Kaprizov, Dorofeyev, Mikheyev
D: Dalhin, Beaudin, Dunn, Kylington, Harley
G: Hart, Demko
Re: Trade thoughts
Agreed - your goaltending would be decimated! Decline. Can you re-structure without the goalies?
Re: Trade thoughts
Hahahaha /snorts uncontrollably/
- I said... "God damn this tablet is heavy!"
Re: Trade thoughts
Jesus are you sure your league counts enough categories? I don't think I saw any point allocations for short-handed ice time or broken sticks...
It makes it hard to evaluate players with so many scoring categories but in a general sense I think you're giving up the most actual value while getting back the most "hype value" or trade value. Young guys like Draisaitl and Helly are going to be highly coveted because of their age. Pickard could be too if Colorado ever transforms from a dumpster fire into an actual hockey team.
I don't think Draisaitl, in particular, could have a higher value right now due to his hot playoff run but I question whether or not he has another level beyond this season. I could easily see him having a Kuznetsov-like regression next year. Nonetheless he's an excellent piece and holds a ton of trade value.
Helly didn't show much this year and Winnipeg is so bad defensively that I'm not as high on him as many others are. He could end up being very good, don't get me wrong, but that team seems content to try to win 5-4 games rather than 2-1 games. Pickard is another guy whose team isn't going to do him any favors but he is the darkhorse piece to this trade IMO as he definitely has the talent. Talbot on the other hand should be a top 5 goalie for the next 3-5 years and Letang is still the best and most valuable player in the bunch when healthy but his trade value is crap because he's never healthy.
I can see how these pieces are a better fit for your young team however I'd shop Talbot and Letang around first to see if I can get a better return. If you decide to work with this deal I'd push to improve the Lucic piece for you. Ultimately though it's a trade I probably make if there's nothing better on the table.
16 GM Dynasty
H2H Points
Weekly Matchups w/ Starts: 12F/6D/2G
G(3), A(2), +/-(0.1), Hit(0.1), SOG(0.1), BS(0.1), PPP(1), SHP(1)
W(4), L(-2), SO(4), Sv(0.2), GA(-1)
F: A. Svechnikov, R. Thomas, N. Suzuki, Pastrnak, Boldy, J. Robertson, J. Hughes, Frost, Tolvanen, Drouin, Heinen, Gallagher, N. Ritchie, Wood, Poehling, Podkolzin
D: Makar, Fox, Dobson, Byram, Dahlin, Ferraro, Michael Stone
G Sorokin, Hart, Georgiev, DeSmith
Farm: Firkus, Kayumov, Heimosalmi, Brennan, Werner, Kvaca, Parik
Re: Trade thoughts
yeah just cannot get over losing Talbot and replacing with Pickard who is not even in Cam's orbit
Girouxsalem
(G,A,PIM,PPP,GWG,FOW,SOG,HIT, BLK)(W,SV,SO,GAA,SV%)
F:B.Tkachuk,Alien,Stutzle,Miller,Connor,Guentzel,Sv ech,Thomas,Rust,Jenner,Bennett,Tolvanen,Danault,Sc hwartz,Arvidsson
D:Carlson,Nurse,Theodore,Matheson,Harley,Pettersson
G:Jarry,Kotchetkov,Stolarz
IR:Gudas,Vilardi
ThePeterNorthStars
G(4),A(2),PIM(1),PPP(2),SHP(3.5),GWG(2),SOG(.5),FO W(.25),FOL(-.25),HIT(.75),BLK(.5) G:W(6)L(-4)GA(-2)SV(.5)SHO(4)
C: Ziba,Tro,Kempe,Vilardi
L: Drai,Forsberg,Tolvanen,Nyquist
RW: Tippett,Boldy,Meier,Raymond
D: Josi,McAvoy,Carlson,Theodore,Faber,Montour,Sanderson
G: Shest,Kotchetkov
Re: Trade thoughts
Too big a trade IMO. This looks like it started as Helly/Pickard and Draisatl for Talbot and has grown from there! Personally I don't like this overall trade...
Experience is the teacher of all things.
Re: Trade thoughts
Well now he's asking for my Talbot & Palmieri for Drais & Hellboy.
I have the cap space and lots of time.
My question does Drais continue to play with CM or does Pully get slotted there?
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