Mark Stone vs Jake Guentzel

[Sulla]

Depends where your team ranks - for me there are worse gambles to take than Guentzel whilst Stone gives you a comfy 60 odd points - if I need to take a swing of two then I take pretzel, if I'm set I let someone else take the risk and make the 'safe' play with Stone

[butch]

its a tough decision either way but perhaps JG gets you a better return in a trade considering his name is red hot

keep MS , and maybe get a 1st round pick for JG instead of losing one or the other in your waiver draft.

[bondon]

Its pretty much split right now.

Stone or Guentzel.

Everyone is saying Stone is the safer pick but they would keep Guentzel. Mind ****!!

You're not winning or losing your pool with this decision. I think Stone is the safer pick and I would keep him. His off year can't be as bad as a Guentzel off year and Stone has enough offensive potential to swing the lever over to his side.

The bottom line is risk management.

Swing for the fences in the draft, not with your keeper selections.

Welcome to the forums....

This is good advice IMO.

[ericdaoust]

Stone for me

[striderz]

At the end of the 15-16 season I came on these forums to get opinions on keeping Kopitar vs. Sheifele (points only, partial keeper). It was fairly unanimous advice to keep Kopitar, the safe bet...

Keep Guentzel. Stone seens pretty established at 55-60 points, but Guentzel could have some 70pt seasons ahead imo.

This is fun, so remember to have fun and take some gambles on the not yet safe guys. Otherwise you will not find any gems.

[BreadManPanarin]

At the end of the 15-16 season I came on these forums to get opinions on keeping Kopitar vs. Sheifele (points only, partial keeper). It was fairly unanimous advice to keep Kopitar, the safe bet...

Keep Guentzel. Stone seens pretty established at 55-60 points, but Guentzel could have some 70pt seasons ahead imo.

This is fun, so remember to have fun and take some gambles on the not yet safe guys. Otherwise you will not find any gems.

This is exactly the line of thought that I follow in these type of situations. Fantasy is supposed to be fun, and what is more fun than going with your gut and ending up right? That being said, it seems that a lot of people on these forums are pretty conservative and risk averse in their fantasy decision making. They would probably argue that winning is more fun, and that you are more likely to win consistently with less gambling.

To each their own!

[LuigiC173]

Stone; suffer through a mediocre first half to own one of the best second half players you can own.

[hockeyrobot]

Stone for me too. As much as I like trying to ride out guys who benefit from playing with stars, I normally wouldn't deal solid contributors for them. Stone has definitely proven he is that.

[BreadManPanarin]

Stone; suffer through a mediocre first half to own one of the best second half players you can own.

Meh, I think the perception that Stone finishes particularly strong is overblown just a bit.

2016-17 his second half production was 26 points in 35 games (61 point pace) out of 71 games total. Finished the year with 62 point pace over 82 games.
2015-16 his second half production was 30 points in 38 games (65 point pace) out of 76 games total. Finished the year with 67 point pace over 82 games.

The only year he finished particularly strong was 2014-15. Not that this changes anything with regard to picking him or Guentzel, but just wanted to point this out because I find the narrative that Stone is consistently an unusually strong second half player to be inaccurate.

[LuigiC173]

30 in 38 and the man wants more, you're a hard owner to satisfy lol

[BreadManPanarin]

30 in 38 and the man wants more, you're a hard owner to satisfy lol

Haha, I am definitely that. Anyways, my point was just that his second half production the last two years has been roughly equivalent to his first half production. No big spikes to be seen.

[LuigiC173]

for sure it's not as good as I thought I owned him that 30 in 38 season so going off solely that really was a mistake nonetheless he is a nice consistent own which is always nice.

[lucafen4]

At the end of the 15-16 season I came on these forums to get opinions on keeping Kopitar vs. Sheifele (points only, partial keeper). It was fairly unanimous advice to keep Kopitar, the safe bet...

Keep Guentzel. Stone seens pretty established at 55-60 points, but Guentzel could have some 70pt seasons ahead imo.

This is fun, so remember to have fun and take some gambles on the not yet safe guys. Otherwise you will not find any gems.

in fairness, while all but one said Kopitar - you also had Kopitar slotted as your #3 when you posted. Everyone projected Scheifele to be comparable or possibly eclipse Kopitar's production this past season. Historically - he was a safe choice. He had a big down year and Scheifele blew everyone's expectations out of the water. .
http://forums.dobbersports.com/showt...ele-vs-Kopitar

That said, I totally agree with taking gambles and making sure you have fun. I'd take Guentzel just to avoid a Sen as a keeper (I plan on trading my Stone in Sept)

[Mr. Guru]

Does Stone reach 70 points (minimum)?

[Crazy Joe Davola]

Pretzel for me please. I'll take the boom potential over the safe sally.