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    Hello Respected Dobber Community,

    I am going to give you a scenario and I want to know if you think it is bush league or legit organization of a fantasy hockey dynasty league.


    - New league gets set up and trying to get 30 owners like lots of dynasty leagues.
    - Get 28 owners successfully and decide that is good enough
    - with 28 owners, have a draft lottery to determine order
    - set draft to start Saturday May 20 (Tomorrow)
    - allow trades to occur, with lots of trades happening between the rookie draft and the player draft.

    - Decide today, Friday May 19, less then 24 hours until the draft is supposed to start, to add another team... and decide to give him 15th overall pick.
    - results in an odd number of teams - 29


    Let me know any and all your thoughts and feel free to answer the poll.

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    I dont see anything wrong with it.

    Would have been nice to know before hand but by giving them 15th overall....pretty fair.

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    As for the pool I'd vote neither. It's an inconvenience but not a major one and new leagues always undergo a lot of changes. It's part of starting up a league.

    At the end of the day it's up to you to decide how you feel about it. If this crosses your line then just walk away.


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    I wouldn't use the term "bush league"... but there's lots of rookie commissioner mistakes here.
    Obv - teams start planning and trading once they have established value.
    Maybe GM-A learns he has the #13 pick, maybe he makes a list, really likes his top 16 picks, trades down with GM-B and receives the #16 and gets an extra pick at #100.

    This new team is inserted at #15... and now GM-A has assets that shift to the #17 pick and the #103 pick. [VALUE LOST]
    Well, now GM-B owns the #13 pick [VALUE seems unchanged, but actually VALUE UP since the deeper the pool the better the elite player pick IS.]
    And that could be a BIG DEAL, depending on whether teams have traded up or traded down. (which is what's happening before the draft).

    So, yeah, big thumbs down to the commissioner.
    (FWIW, I personally reserve use of the term "Bush League" for something intentionally poorly/shadily run. I think you just have a green-commissioner that hasn't been around enough and doesn't know numbers super well.)

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    Im assuming it's not an h2h league?

    Also, would it have made a difference if the commish told everyone that "If we get more teams interested between now and the draft we're going to let him/her in and give them the 15th overall pick"

    Would trades not have went down because I could have dropped a couple spots?

    I really think it wouldn't have mattered that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Guru View Post
    Im assuming it's not an h2h league?
    It is head to head league, not sure how it will be ran with an uneven number of teams.. I guess bye weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    I wouldn't use the term "bush league"... but there's lots of rookie commissioner mistakes here.
    Obv - teams start planning and trading once they have established value.
    As soon as a team learns he has the #13 pick, maybe he makes a list, really likes his top 16 picks, trades down to #16 and gets an extra pick at #100.

    This new team is inserted at #15... and now this guys owns the #17 pick and the #103 pick. [VALUE LOST]
    Whereas some other guy now owns the #13 pick [VALUE seems unchanged, but actually VALUE UP since the deeper the pool the better the elite player pick IS.]
    And that could be a BIG DEAL, depending on whether teams have traded up or traded down. (which is what's happening before the draft).

    So, yeah, big thumbs down to the commissioner.
    (FWIW, I personally reserve use of the term "Bush League" for something intentionally poorly/shadily run. I think you just have a green-commissioner that hasn't been around enough and doesn't know numbers super well.)
    Thanks for your input. I always refer to Bush League as a level below, or like Junior C back home is considered Bush League... sorry maybe bad terminology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinHunter View Post
    It is head to head league, not sure how it will be ran with an uneven number of teams.. I guess bye weeks?
    Id have more of a problem with this than the actual draft positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinHunter View Post
    Thanks for your input. I always refer to Bush League as a level below, or like Junior C back home is considered Bush League... sorry maybe bad terminology.
    I looked it up.
    Your definition is correct.
    So, yes - I shall now go and vote: Bush League, it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Guru View Post
    Id have more of a problem with this than the actual draft positions.
    Yes, this was another concern, thats why i included it as a point in the post. thanks!

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    Redo the draft lottery. Easiest fix to me. It would have been done with the extra team anyway..

    Or insert the late joiner last. 29th pick.
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    If the league goes to two matchups per week - bye weeks can really be minimized, - if on Fantrax
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    Quote Originally Posted by agentzero View Post
    Redo the draft lottery. Easiest fix to me. It would have been done with the extra team anyway..

    Or insert the late joiner last. 29th pick.
    Can the draft lottery be re-done if draft picks have been traded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinHunter View Post
    Can the draft lottery be re-done if draft picks have been traded?
    No it can't which is why that would be a bad idea.

    I do agree with giving them the 29th pick probably being the best of bad choices.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    No it can't which is why that would be a bad idea.

    I do agree with giving them the 29th pick probably being the best of bad choices.
    Right forgot picks were already traded. Then just give the 29th pick. Late entrant. If you want in, that`s the stakes.
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