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    Default Karlsson/Kuzy or Seguin/Josi

    points format and team is in SIG (#'s in brackets equal to PPG for last season)

    getting:
    Karlsson (4.3)
    Kuznetsov (2.8)

    trading:
    Seguin (3.8)
    Josi (3.4)
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    Default Re: Karlsson/Kuzy or Seguin/Josi

    Karlsson side easily. I'd accept this pretty quick.
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    Default Re: Karlsson/Kuzy or Seguin/Josi

    I usually would say the Karlsson side, but with so few D slots, it's a lot easier to fill defence. I think I would hold.
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    Default Re: Karlsson/Kuzy or Seguin/Josi

    I'm on the Karlsson side because he's the best player of the bunch (Seguin close).

    I believe Kuznetsov closes the gap on the other two as well even tho I'm not a real life fan. He looked good in the playoffs and had a terrible start to the reg sesson. He should be low to mid 3's next year.
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    Default Re: Karlsson/Kuzy or Seguin/Josi

    I guess it depends where you think the biggest difference in production comes from... Also as EB says would depend what d are on waivers as I do prefer Seguin over Kuz
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    all the dman of worth are taken, usually it's depth dman on waivers like Da Haan, Larsson, Goligoski and players like that, granted before draft some players have to be cut but the league has 16 teams and each team has anywhere from 3-5 dman
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    I guess it depends where you think the biggest difference in production comes from... Also as EB says would depend what d are on waivers as I do prefer Seguin over Kuz
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    Default Re: Karlsson/Kuzy or Seguin/Josi

    Then I take Karlsson here
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    Default Re: Karlsson/Kuzy or Seguin/Josi

    Karlsson side for me too
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    Is Kuzy a LW,C?
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    Default Re: Karlsson/Kuzy or Seguin/Josi

    Karlsson side, given the Hitchcock effect on Seguin. But it's closer than one might think, what with Josi posting 27 points in his final 30 games after a poor start.
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    Default Re: Karlsson/Kuzy or Seguin/Josi

    This is a tough one.. Josi is so good, but EK is, well, EK!

    The Hitch factor in Dallas clouds Seguin's value a tad, but Kuzya is a second liner and for the most part, on the second PP.

    Conservatively, lets say:

    Seguin (70-75 points) + Josi (50-55 points)

    vs

    Kuznetsov (60-65 points) + EK's (70-75 points)

    I guess you go for the side with the best player, so the deal makes sense, but its a darn close one.
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    Default Re: Karlsson/Kuzy or Seguin/Josi

    Karlsson side for me... Kuzy is more than a 2.8pt/gm player. Likely he's in the 3.3-36 range next yea which makes this an easy accept. I'd look at his last year total - figure it's in the 3.8ish range, so spitting that stellar season with this lackluster one... you come out ahead
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    I like the Josi/Seguin side myself.
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    yeah I tried to buy low on Kuzy while he slumped but the GM w/ him was hell bent on keeping him
    but not a bad guess last season Kuzy was a 3.5 only flaws on him in my leagues point format is he doesn't shoot much and he loses more faceoffs then he wins

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    Karlsson side for me... Kuzy is more than a 2.8pt/gm player. Likely he's in the 3.3-36 range next yea which makes this an easy accept. I'd look at his last year total - figure it's in the 3.8ish range, so spitting that stellar season with this lackluster one... you come out ahead
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    Josi/Seguin
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